Mike Osterholm

And in fact, we saw that in China when in 2021, 2022 for populations that had been really heavily locked down.

I mean, they literally had food delivered to their homes when that lockdown was ended.

And they were not vaccinated.

They lost millions of people, literally, in the short order because of that.

So what we had proposed all along was, what is the one thing that's going to save us, if anything?

It's good medical care.

It's having adequate access to good medical care.

Well, you can't do that if you're at 140% Celsius.

You just can't do that.

And so what we were talking about is, you know, whether you die in the first six months or the second six months or the third six months or the fourth six months, you're still pretty dead at the end of the pandemic.

And the point was, what can we do to maximize hospital care, minimize the risk of that being launched?

And so one of the things we'd proposed is the fact that every hospital should, in fact,

label or provide every day.

What's our census at?

And when in a community and everybody can see it.

So there was no, you know, and then if you got to 95 or a hundred percent, you would ask people to take a snow day or days where you'd say, you know, for the next seven to 10 days, please, if you can back off public events, if you can do anything to minimize contact,

That will help us.

And then once we get the census back down, and of course, the variants had a lot to do with that, whether they came up and down, too.

But that would give us a better chance of having it.

And that's something you can sustain through the entire pandemic.