Mike Pesca

I tried really hard.

I spoke out when I thought it was necessary.

So I know that moment that Sharon Alfonsi, you know, you make that decision.

It's not an easy decision because you're never you know, her career is never going to be the same at CBS.

You know, we'll see.

Does she outlast Barry Weiss or does Barry Weiss outlast her on that front?

I have no idea what her contract situation is or anything like that.

But ultimately, executives don't like to be shown up by their employees.

And so eventually that's, you know, but at the end of the day, you feel the need to stick up for the journalists in the organization.

And this is what makes when you're a publicly traded company owning a journalist, journalistic institution, you have a choice to make.

Right.

Are you going to stand by journalism is not meant to be popular.

I always say this.

Journalists are not meant to be if you are doing this to be popular.

And this is why this whole in this whole algorithmic driven nature of our news consumption really bothers me because it it it.

It sort of fuses popularity with news consumption, which is a huge mistake for journalism.

If you're doing your journalism based on what you think is going to be popular, you're not going to do good journalism because you're going to be constantly worried about what an audience thinks, either an audience of one, in the case of the White House, or a larger audience in the case of your partisan news channel like MSNOW or Fox News, where you don't want to, quote, alienate your viewers.

and alienate the audience that you have.

I think this is a huge concern with YouTube influencers.

I think it's a huge concern with some sub-stackers where you have essentially audience capture on this front.