Mike Pesca

So if you're going to be in the journalistic space and you want to be a journalist, grow a thick skin and don't worry about being popular or not.

Over time...

An honest, straightforward, no bullshit talking journalist is going to accumulate trust.

Trust is more important than popularity.

That, I promise you, trust is more important than popularity.

So at the end of the day, that's what I think about.

I'd rather tell you honest information than make you feel good when I don't think what you want to hear to feel good is actually accurate.

You know, do I want to present it in such a way where it's easy to consume, where it doesn't feel like your own personal points of view are being attacked when you're hearing information that runs counter to your beliefs?

Yes, I think there are better ways to present information.

I think there are more detached ways.

ways to present information.

I think one of the things that we collectively didn't do well, and we let, and look, Donald Trump can make anybody emotionally, you know, go, Jesus, you know, that, I don't know.

But you got to do your best sometimes to check yourself and try to detach yourself from certain things, right?

If you really want to be a referee-like journalist where you're just calling it like you see it.

pure and simple.

And at the end of the day, that's what I'm doing here.

So that's why I'm saying it in some ways, if you're in the independent space, you know, nothing, nothing like the self-destruction of more corporate owned media, like CBS news as being helpful to the, to the cause.

But I will tell you this, there's a reason why independent media is growing the way it is growing, because I think you have corporations that don't care about their news divisions anymore.

And at the end of the day, they will use them if it helps them for their business.

and they will discard them the second they become, they interfere with their business.