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Mike Ritland

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2565 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Uh, predecessor, right? So I had been doing lots of designs of malicious cables, right? And I had some really early proof of concept just to show it's possible. No wireless connection, really tiny payload capability, you know, a few dozen, maybe a hundred keystrokes, right? Really limits what you can do. It's really slow. I mean, we're not hitting a thousand keystroke per second thing. We're

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Uh, predecessor, right? So I had been doing lots of designs of malicious cables, right? And I had some really early proof of concept just to show it's possible. No wireless connection, really tiny payload capability, you know, a few dozen, maybe a hundred keystrokes, right? Really limits what you can do. It's really slow. I mean, we're not hitting a thousand keystroke per second thing. We're

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Uh, predecessor, right? So I had been doing lots of designs of malicious cables, right? And I had some really early proof of concept just to show it's possible. No wireless connection, really tiny payload capability, you know, a few dozen, maybe a hundred keystrokes, right? Really limits what you can do. It's really slow. I mean, we're not hitting a thousand keystroke per second thing. We're

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Maybe it doesn't. Really slow, right? But it's like, it worked, right? Can't remotely update it, can't do anything, but it worked. I want to show the world, because, you know, hacker, you want to share the information stuff and work with other people. I didn't see it as like a product, it was just more like... more like art, like, hey, cool, look at this thing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Maybe it doesn't. Really slow, right? But it's like, it worked, right? Can't remotely update it, can't do anything, but it worked. I want to show the world, because, you know, hacker, you want to share the information stuff and work with other people. I didn't see it as like a product, it was just more like... more like art, like, hey, cool, look at this thing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Maybe it doesn't. Really slow, right? But it's like, it worked, right? Can't remotely update it, can't do anything, but it worked. I want to show the world, because, you know, hacker, you want to share the information stuff and work with other people. I didn't see it as like a product, it was just more like... more like art, like, hey, cool, look at this thing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And yeah, he reached out and wanted to kind of collaborate and have me build one for him. And I started on that process, but I didn't have enough time to complete it with his work constraints as well, because he didn't have time and stuff. And eventually what happened... Didn't know about it, but he went to someone else and said, make this for me. Oh, shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And yeah, he reached out and wanted to kind of collaborate and have me build one for him. And I started on that process, but I didn't have enough time to complete it with his work constraints as well, because he didn't have time and stuff. And eventually what happened... Didn't know about it, but he went to someone else and said, make this for me. Oh, shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And yeah, he reached out and wanted to kind of collaborate and have me build one for him. And I started on that process, but I didn't have enough time to complete it with his work constraints as well, because he didn't have time and stuff. And eventually what happened... Didn't know about it, but he went to someone else and said, make this for me. Oh, shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I didn't know about it until it came out. The thing is, it wasn't very good. I was just like, dude, first of all, this is not very good. This sucks. I wish I was making this a proper product at all. So I was like, hey, if you had the resources, I could have used that. Because I was just doing this on the side. But we have... you know, solved things since then.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I didn't know about it until it came out. The thing is, it wasn't very good. I was just like, dude, first of all, this is not very good. This sucks. I wish I was making this a proper product at all. So I was like, hey, if you had the resources, I could have used that. Because I was just doing this on the side. But we have... you know, solved things since then.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I didn't know about it until it came out. The thing is, it wasn't very good. I was just like, dude, first of all, this is not very good. This sucks. I wish I was making this a proper product at all. So I was like, hey, if you had the resources, I could have used that. Because I was just doing this on the side. But we have... you know, solved things since then.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

You know, I think there's certain levels of communication and misunderstanding, so I don't want to be like, oh, he's the worst. But, you know, lessons learned as well of like, you know, if it's something you can turn into a product, maybe wait until it's ready. You know, things like that. Which is exactly what I did with the OMG cable, right? That's where it's like thousands of times better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

You know, I think there's certain levels of communication and misunderstanding, so I don't want to be like, oh, he's the worst. But, you know, lessons learned as well of like, you know, if it's something you can turn into a product, maybe wait until it's ready. You know, things like that. Which is exactly what I did with the OMG cable, right? That's where it's like thousands of times better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

You know, I think there's certain levels of communication and misunderstanding, so I don't want to be like, oh, he's the worst. But, you know, lessons learned as well of like, you know, if it's something you can turn into a product, maybe wait until it's ready. You know, things like that. Which is exactly what I did with the OMG cable, right? That's where it's like thousands of times better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I mean, well, so, RIP. He's no longer around. Oh, really? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, the way he would be introduced, like, I don't know. But it was always the world's most famous hacker is the tagline that was used.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I mean, well, so, RIP. He's no longer around. Oh, really? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, the way he would be introduced, like, I don't know. But it was always the world's most famous hacker is the tagline that was used.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I mean, well, so, RIP. He's no longer around. Oh, really? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, the way he would be introduced, like, I don't know. But it was always the world's most famous hacker is the tagline that was used.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

So, well, he, God, yeah. I need a refresher on this, but basically he had gotten the attention of the FBI, and they were hunting him down for getting into various places. A lot of social engineering tricks and stuff like that. And kind of a cat and mouse game. There's a movie called Takedown, right? So good movie. Check it out. But he went to prison then. and was pretty unfairly treated.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

So, well, he, God, yeah. I need a refresher on this, but basically he had gotten the attention of the FBI, and they were hunting him down for getting into various places. A lot of social engineering tricks and stuff like that. And kind of a cat and mouse game. There's a movie called Takedown, right? So good movie. Check it out. But he went to prison then. and was pretty unfairly treated.