Mike Schur
Appearances
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
I'm in New York, and I happen to be in Aziz's apartment right now.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
No, no. I locked him out. He's downstairs. He can't get in. Banging on the door. That's right. He's furious.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
That's always the best place at a barbecue is just upstairs by yourself away from everything.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
By the way, guys, where's Aziz? Yeah. I haven't heard from him in years.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
While people around us are doing work, like setting up the next shot, carrying... cameras and equipment stuff, we're like, oh, look at us in front of this, you know, just like.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Of course. And they killed it. That went away very quickly. I remember getting that email and being so, cause there were like rumblings, like we're actually, I think we might shoot something and the writers might be coming up with something and then getting the email and knowing for sure Morgan was on board meant that we might actually be doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He puts his brain on it.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Time will be carved out. And it was, I remember just being so excited that we were going to get to do it because we'd been talking about it at that point. Maybe for like six months. I don't know. Did you figure out how long from when we had taken the picture to when we shot this?
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Sure. Nick Bellows. He's a district attorney. He rides his motorcycle to work, leather jacket with a tie. He was one of the fastest rising attorneys in Manhattan and was being groomed for partner at Powers Cooper and Powers under the tutelage of his mentor slash father figure, Blaine Powers. Cool.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
But the morning of September 11th, 2001, Nick was late to work because he was in bed with a woman he'd been secretly seeing Melina Powers, Blaine Powers White.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The location of Powers Cooper and Powers offices, World Trade Center, North Tower, 67th floor. Bellows is the only survivor from his firm.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Just below the surface, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Bellows went off the grid. He was believed to have perished along with his colleagues, but in fact, he grabbed his suitcase, leather jacket, and a .357 Magnum and found his way to Afghanistan, determined to fight for justice in the one place, the only place that truly needs it. Good lord.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Bellows has more demons than he can count. Now that he's back, he's on the right side of the law. He cares about only one thing. One thing and one thing only, justice.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
His leather jacket and a gun and go to, I guess, independent of the armed forces. Yeah, he just went over there on his own.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
I'm so sorry. There is no footage of that. All right, what's your character?
Good Hang with Amy Poehler
"Philly Justice"
Thank you. No, thank you. Thanks for creating space for me to go to Afghanistan. With your pistol. With a gun. Yeah.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ich habe den Show The Good Place beendet und ich arbeite für NBC Universal. Sie kamen zu mir und starteten einen neuen Streamer, Peacock. Und, weißt du, der Punkt einer Firma wie NBCUniversal, eine Streamer zu haben, ist, dass sie ihre IP, ihre Bibliothek, sie blöden die Stoffe aus der Cover und sie atmen neue Leben darin mit Reboots oder Updated Versionen oder Sequenzen oder was auch immer.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And they asked me about Field of Dreams because they knew I loved baseball. And I was extremely reticent, I would say at first. I never adapted anything that pre-existed before. I revered the movie and was scared of screwing it up. But eventually I thought, you know, I love baseball. I love that movie. I've never written about baseball. It sounds really hard. It sounds really difficult.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And that usually in my life... bedeutet, dass es wert ist, es zu machen. Und das ist letztendlich die Sache, die mich dazu gebracht hat, es zu machen. Also habe ich gesagt, ja, ich habe den guten Ort abgeschlossen. Es hat sich ungefähr sechs Monate gedauert, um zu versuchen, den Ansatzvektor zu denken. Wie kann ich das machen?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Wie kann ich die Menschen, die den Film lieben, zufriedenstellen und die Menschen, die ihn nicht lieben, überwinden? Das war der Herausforderung. Und für die nächste, ich weiß nicht, Jahr, würde ich sagen, war es wahrscheinlich 18 oder 20 Monate von Anfang an. Ich habe die Geschichte ausgesprochen. Es wird sieben Stunden lang sein.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es wird eine Mini-Serie sein, eine limited-Serie, mit der Möglichkeit, dass es weitere Versionen geben wird, weitere Saisonen. Ich habe einen Schriftsteller zusammengebracht. Wir haben die sieben Skripte geschrieben und wir haben viel Casting gemacht. Wir haben uns eingeladen, da zu sein. Andre Brouwer wird James Earl Jones' Rolle spielen. Oh, das ist gut. Kristen Bell wird dabei sein.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Nick Offerman wird dabei sein. Will Harper, der Chidi in The Good Place spielt, wird dabei sein. Und wir haben dann die Konstruktion auf einem Fußballplatz in einem Kornfeld in Iowa begonnen. Morgan Sackett, der langjährige Produzent der meisten der Dinge, die ich je gemacht habe, ist aus Iowa. Und er kannte viele Leute dort und wir hatten einen Location Manager.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und was passiert ist, du gehst zu einem Ort in Iowa und du fährst durch unendliche Felder Korn und du kommst auf einen wunderschönen weißen Farmhaus. Und du schaust dich um und denkst dir, ja, das könnte funktionieren. Sieht so gut aus. Und dann sagst du, okay, wir gehen zum nächsten. Und dann fährst du für 48 Minuten durch Kornfels und du fährst zu einem fast identischen weißen Farmhaus.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und du denkst dir, ja, das könnte auch funktionieren. Und wir haben das einfach gemacht. Es war verrückt. Es war schrecklich. Für zwei Tage haben wir nur durch Kornfels gefahren und sind auf weißen Farmhäusern gekommen. Und dann... und sagen, ja, das könnte auch funktionieren.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ein Teil davon war, dass das, was wir gefunden haben, tatsächlich auf einem kleinen Riss war. Ich war ziemlich flach. Und das Haus, das wir gefunden haben, war auf einem kleinen Hügel, was es sehr bildungsgemäß sieht. Die Art und Weise, wie die Fahrt von der Hausaufgabe auf die Hauptstraße ging, war perfekt. Die Farm war enorm.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es waren mehrere tausend Äcker, was bedeutet, dass die nahesten, hochvertreibenden Straßen sehr weit weg waren, also gab es nicht viel Geräusch. Es war einfach perfekt. Alle anderen waren funktionierbar. Diese war perfekt. So we made a deal. We essentially rented six or so acres, I think, from the farmers in question. And we began construction on a baseball field. And we laid out the dimensions.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And it was exactly like the movie. It was going to be major league dimensions. I think it was... 3.30 Uhr in der Linie und 3.85 Uhr im Zentrum. Und es gab Lichter und es gab Rieser für den Publikum. Ich meine, es ist ein professionell gemachtes Feld. Es ist erstaunlich. Es ist perfekt flach. Und es wird genutzt oder nicht? Oh, es hat ein volles Irrigationssystem, Pablo. Es hat...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es hat ein volles Irrigationssystem. Wir sind so weit gegangen, um die Power-Linien zu beschädigen, die auf dem Weg nach vorne gelangten, damit wir bessere Sichtlinien für die Kameras hätten. Und es endete in einem Kornfeld, genau wie in dem Film. Und wir haben im August gespielt, als der Korn hoch war, und das ganze Ding.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Das ist das Schlimmste daran, dass wir so weit wie möglich gegangen sind, ohne das zu tun, was wir geplant hatten.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Let me retract my previous dumb joke. It is not fair, I think, to say we got screwed. We are hardly the first Hollywood project to get close to production and then get shut down. This is a common occurrence, right? Sure, sure. Und ich denke, es muss gesagt werden, For the record, this is a thing that happens.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
This is a thing you are prepared for, mentally and emotionally, that at any moment, I mean, as long as there have been TV shows and movies, there have been TV shows and movies that got right up to the starting line and then got ganged, right?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Das, was das anders macht, sind zwei Dinge. Das eine ist, dass das Feld selbst, das tatsächlich gebaut wird, bis heute ein Monument für das, was passiert ist. Und auch, dass der gesamte emotionale Druck auf den Film, wie du gesagt hast, ist, wenn du ihn bauen kannst, kommt er. Und dann haben wir ihn gebaut und er hat nicht die Chance, aufzuhören.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Das ist eine sehr astute Überzeugung, die du gemacht hast. Denn das erste, was ich gemacht habe, als ich geplant hatte, wie ich das vornehmen würde, war, die Überzeugung zu machen, wie du sie gemacht hast, dass der Film zu einem gewissen Grad über Nostalgie geht. Und in einer Meta-Welt, das Rebooten, wäre selbst ein Nostalgie-Akt. Und das meinte für mich, dass Nostalgie doppelt wichtig war.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Man konnte sich fast verloren lassen, um die Wege zu lösen, die Nostalgie in dem Projekt herauszufinden musste. Also begann ich den kreativen Prozess von dieser exakten Observation. Und was ich bemerkt habe, war, dass Nostalgie selbst eine Verletzung ist. Es ist ein Weg, dass die Leute nur die guten Teile des Vergangenheits erinnern, ohne die schlechten oder schmerzhaften Teile zu erinnern.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Nostalgie bedeutet selber Schmerz, richtig? Es ist ein Wort, das Schmerz erzeugt, weil man den Schmerz eines Verlustes fühlt. Und in den ersten fünf Minuten des ersten Episodes, What is happening is you're seeing Kristen Bell's character. You don't know who she is yet. And there is a group of old, crusty sportswriters sitting in a bar watching a Twins game. They're in Minneapolis.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And they start talking about Jack Morris.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und das, was die Twins gerade wirklich verpasst, ist Jack Morris. Denn Jack Morris hatte Guts, und er hatte Geil, und er hat ein Zehn-Inning-Spiel gespielt in der World Series. Er hat Spiele gewonnen. Er hat mehr Gewinne in den 80ern als jeder andere Spieler und all das. Verdammt richtig.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und sie kommt her und sie leset den Riot-Akt und sie sagt, ihr Jungs, ihr seid enttäuscht von eurer eigenen Nostalgie. Ihr erinnert euch nicht daran, dass der Jahr, nachdem Jack Morris das Spiel gespielt hat, er in der World Series gespielt hat und sich aufgelöst hat.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Er war nicht der Pitcher, den Sie denken, er sei. Und es war mein Weg, versucht zu senden, dass dieses Film, oder eher dieses Show, diese limited-series, nicht nur, zumindest nur, in Nostalgie verbreitet wird. Es wird kein Projekt sein, in dem das Einzige, was Sie tun mussten, war, sich zurückzuschauen und sich an die guten alten Tage von Field of Dreams zu erinnern, den originalen Film.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
So that theme permeated the entire project.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Nun, die Antwort darauf ist komplex, wie man es sich vorstellen würde. Aber ich glaube, was eigentlich passiert ist, war, dass sie, als sie mit der Idee kamen, eine Art Vision für das, was Peacock werden würde. Jede Firma, die ihren eigenen Streaming-Service Disney startete, und Warner Brothers und NBC, sie hatten eine Art Vision für die Zukunft.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und ganz einfach, in den zwei Jahren oder so, die es zwischen dem ersten Ansatz und der Zeit war, als wir die Produktion starteten, hat die Vision geändert. Die Dinge, die auf Peacock gearbeitet haben, waren... Die Premier League war eine große Sache. Ich glaube, das Wettbewerb war auch eine große Sache. Es gab ein paar Dinge hier und da, originale Dinge, die durchgebrochen wurden.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es war nicht günstig, das zu machen. Die siebte Episode-Serie hatte, ich erinnere mich nicht genau auf das Budget, aber es war eine sehr große Menge Geld. Du hast ein Feld gebaut, Mike.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ja, es war nicht günstig, richtig? Es war ein großer Cast und es war, weißt du, es war wie 80 Millionen Dollar oder so, oder mehr. Also, wenn es Zeit kommt, die Karte zu schließen, um so etwas zu machen, gibt es eine andere Bewertung, die gemacht wird und sie müssen entscheiden, ob es den Geld wert ist.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und das Geschäft hat sich so dramatisch verändert in den letzten fünf Jahren, dass einige der Ideen, die du für das, was du in sechs Monaten machen wirst, dramatisch in sechs Monaten verändern könnten. Also war es essentiell ökonomisch. Ich meine, ich sage es so, an keinem Punkt Once we set the budget, the budget was a fight like all budgets are. Once we set the budget, the budget never increased.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Well, that, you know, my argument back to them at the time was, I understand that, you know, look, I've been at NBC for, I've been continuously employed by NBC for 25 years, more than 25 years now. Which is rare. And my argument back to them was simply to say I don't know, I'm not privy to the inside conversations about the future of the streaming service or the company or anything.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
I just have to believe that even if you have a limited number of bullets in your gun that Field of Dreams, wie die Worte Field of Dreams über ein Bild von einem wunderschönen Korn auf Magic Hour als Poster. Die Leute werden das sehen, denke ich. Ich denke, der Vorp von Field of Dreams ist ziemlich hoch. Value Over Replacement Crop. Ja, Korn ist da oben. Der Vorp ist sehr hoch.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
So, you know, it stung. I'm not going to lie. Obviously a lot of work had gone into it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Yeah. I'm mourning a lot of things. I mourn the loss of the work that had already been done by a lot of people. Not just Morgan Sackett, who had scouted and prepped and sort of planned out the whole thing. We had our property master, a woman named Gay Parello, had gotten... Das ist genau der Art von Baseball, der in bestimmten Spielen aus bestimmten Äraren benutzt wurde.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Wir hatten die Schuhe und die Uniformen für die Black Sox und für andere Leute, die auf der Bühne standen, die vintage Uniformen waren. Ich habe die Schuhe von Shoeless Joe Jackson aus einem Pile von vintage Schuhen ausgewählt. Was für ein Traum für Mike Schur. Oh mein Gott, ich sage dir, Mann.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ich gehe in die Arbeit und unsere Kostümer, Kirsten Mann und unser Propertymaster, Gay Pirello, würden sagen, wir brauchen dich in diesem Konferenzraum. Und ich würde rein und es wären nur Racks von vintage Baseball-Uniformen und Bats und Glöckchen und Balls und... Und alte Programme. Es war wie ein Fieber-Dream für mich. Es war wirklich.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
I was 47-year-old me and I was also like 9-year-old me at the same time. But I'll tell you what I mourn the most. I also mourn, I should say, Ich hatte nur Andre Brauers Stimme in meinem Kopf, die diese Monologen geschrieben hat. Und ich hatte Kristen Bells Stimme in meinem Kopf, die ihre Charaktere geschrieben hat. Und ich habe natürlich schon mit diesen Leuten gearbeitet.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und Nick Offerman und Will Harper. Ich wusste einfach nur, wie gut sie sein werden. Und das nicht zu haben, ist natürlich sehr depressiv. Ich zeige dir das, was ich am meisten vermisse. Meine Vision für die Serie war das folgende. Ich werde die ganze Geschichte des Films wiederhelfen, mit einigen wichtigen Veränderungen. Es wird um die Zeit gehen, in der der Film stattfand.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
In dem Film hat Ray eine junge Tochter, die sechs Jahre alt ist. Ich werde die ganze Geschichte des Films wiederhelfen. außer, dass die Tochter älter sein wird. Sie wird in der Hochschule sein. Und gleichzeitig, in einer anderen Zeitung, in einer kontemporären Zeitung, werde ich die Geschichte von seiner jetzt geborenen Tochter erzählen. Das war Christens Charakter.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
In the very beginning of the series, Ray dies off camera. And she was going to go through her own version of searching for a way to heal her relationship with Ray just the way Ray had with his dad in the movie. So you were getting two parallel stories in two different timelines. That was the basic structure of it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Among the changes that I made to the original story was, you know, when I watched it for the millionth time, Ich habe erwähnt, wie Terence Mann, ein Bürgerrechtsautor und Aktivist, nach Iowa zurückgebracht wird und die Geister auf dem Feld sieht. Und alle Geister sind weiße Jungs aus der segregierten Baseball-Ära. Ich wollte das irgendwann aufbringen. Und interessanterweise...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
He doesn't seem to have any comment about that. It doesn't really strike him as interesting or problematic or annoying or anything. He just really loves baseball too. He just loves Mel Ott. He's just really psyched to see Mel Ott. So, in my version, Moonlight Graham was a Negro Leagues player.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And the reason he never got to fulfill his dream of playing in the major leagues is because baseball was segregated until 1947. So, the journey that they go on to find Moonlight Graham, which had a different name, because Moonlight Graham was a real person, is a journey into the pretty unpleasant, pretty ugly past of the segregated world of baseball in the mid-40s.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es gibt eine echte Geschichte, die sagt, dass 1945 unter extremen Druck von dem Boston City Council ein Gruppe von Journalisten und City Council-Folgen dachte, dass Boston sich integrieren sollte. Der Krieg war vorbei. Schwarze Männer und Frauen kämpften um den Faschismus zu beenden, und trotzdem konnten sie Baseball nicht spielen. Das sah dumm aus.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Boston war der Ort des Abolitionismus-Movements. Und sie dachten, Boston sollte hier den Weg führen. und sie haben Tom Jaquis Hand dazu gefordert, Tests an die Niederliga-Spieler zu geben. Die Red Sox-Händler. Ja, die Red Sox-Händler. Und sie haben gesagt, wenn du das nicht tust, werden wir dein Spiel am Sonntag auslösen und du wirst keine Spiele am Sonntag haben können.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Also wurde seine Hand gefordert und er hat sich entschieden, drei Spieler zu testen, einer davon war Jackie Robinson. Und er kam und hatte eine Versuchung auf dem Feld bei Fenway. Und das ganze Ding war für die Show. Es war Kabuki-Theater. Es gab nichts dahinter. Sie haben es nur gemacht, um eine Box zu beobachten. Famösisch sind die Red Sox das letzte Team, das sich integriert hat.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Pumpsie Green ist 1959 mit den Dodgers verabredet. Ich habe diese Geschichte durch die fiktionale Sicht eines Spielers namens Moonlight Williams erzählt, der diese Versuchung gegeben hat und dann gesagt hat, du wirst nie auf diesem Team sein, du wirst nie die Majoren machen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Das war die Art von Folkrum für die ganze Serie, weil es in einer großen Szene abläuft zwischen Moonlight, welcher Will Harpers Charakter sein wird, und Tom Yawkey, wo Moonlight sagt zu ihm, ich verstehe dich. Du denkst, ich verstehe dich nicht, aber ich verstehe dich. Und dein Problem ist, dass du mit Nostalgie verpackt bist.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Du fühlst den Verlust einer Welt, die du gewohnt hast, und du freust dich, dass die nächste kommt. Und ich will dir nur sagen, dass es passieren wird. Wir spielen Baseball in den Major Leagues. Ich weiß nicht wann, aber bald. Und es gibt nichts, was du tun kannst, um es zu stoppen. Und du solltest dementsprechend deine Nostalgie, deine Schmerzen überwinden. und das zu akzeptieren.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und er hat auch gesagt, dass die Welt, die du in Liebe erinnerst, eine Welt ist, die für mich schmerzhaft ist. Und nur weil du Schmerzen von ihrer Verlust fühlst, fühle ich Schmerzen von ihrer Existenz. Und es war der vierte von sieben Episoden. Es war in der Mitte. Die ganze Sache hat 1945 stattgefunden. Es war alles diese Geschichte. Und du hattest die Geschichte im Flashback. Und ich...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
So when you ask what I'm mourning, I think that that episode of TV is the best thing I've ever written. I truly believe that. I conceived of it. I was helped a great deal by the other writers who helped me shape it and conceive of it. And Und ich habe es fertig gemacht. Und ich, wie die meisten Schriftsteller, mag es wenigstens die Dinge, die ich schreibe. Es ist ein sehr rares Gefühl.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Aber als ich fertig war, war ich so, das ist der Grund, um Field of Dreams zu machen. Der Grund, um Field of Dreams zu machen, ist nicht, um Nostalgie zu entdecken oder zu fühlen, dass ich mit einem Ding verbunden bin, das ich liebte oder... So that I can someday meet Kevin Costner.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
The reason to do this is to write this story, which is a terrible and also beautiful story of a very, very specific moment in time in the history of the game I love. And to film this and make it exactly the way I want it to and put it out into the world. And that is the, when you ask me what's the thing I mourn that I lost, that's the thing that I mourn the most.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
We leased the land from the folks who own it for a certain number of months, and I don't remember how many months it was. But I think that lease has expired, so I think it's just back in their hands again.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
There's never no chance, I would say. I mean, as quickly as the sands shifted in Hollywood in a way that was detrimental to the project, they could shift back the other way tomorrow. Who knows? I mean, I'm always going to hold out a little hope because it did mean a lot to me to work on it. I think it meant a lot to the writers and to the crew that worked on it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
We were all getting very excited to shoot it. But for now, you know, it is dormant as we speak. And it'll take a miracle, I would say, to get it up and running again. But, I mean, that's sort of the message of the movie, right? You should believe in the possibility of miracles. So I don't think, however much longer I am a writer in Hollywood, I don't think I will ever...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
bis zu dem Punkt, wo ich es komplett aufgeben kann. Weißt du, wie es ist, wenn dein Team 75 und 78 ist und es sind noch zwölf Spiele übrig und du siehst die Spielausgaben, es sagt weniger als 0,1 Prozent. Es sagt nicht Null.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
My pleasure. Well, not really, but for the sake of this podcast, my pleasure.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und was ist dein Review? Weil es ist ein sehr kontroverses Film zwischen Fußball-Fans, Sport-Fans. Manche lieben es, manche hassen es.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Wenn du noch nicht The Godfather gesehen hast, dann hast du es ja auch schon gesehen. Du hast die Quote gehört und die Leute haben es so oft ausgedrückt. Ja, genau.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Und Feel the Dreams hat viele Momente und viele Szenen darin, die die amerikanische kulturelle Landschaft so verbreitet haben, dass es völlig möglich ist, dass dein Gehirn dich ins Denken gezwungen hat, das du in dem ganzen Film gesehen hättest.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ein ehemaliger hippiescher Kind aus den 60ern, der jetzt verheiratet ist, lebt mit seiner Frau und Tochter in einem Kornfeld in Iowa. Er ist am Korn, hört eine Stimme und sagt, wenn du es bauen kannst, kommt er. He sees a vision in his corn of a baseball stadium. He tells his wife what has happened to him. His wife kind of incredibly says, go nuts, man. Am I completely nuts? Not completely.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Sie ist sehr enthusiastisch. Sie ist extrem vergeblich und auf seiner Seite in allen Dingen. Und so baut er ein Kornfeld, ein Fußballfeld in seinem Kornfeld. Und er, wie er es intuitiv wusste, ist Shoeless Joe Jackson. Der berühmte Mitglied des 1919-Chicago-Black-Socks-Skandal. Say it ain't so, Joe. Shoeless Joe Jackson war Ray, Ray ist der Farmer, Rays Vater's favorite ball player. Ja.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Er baut den Fußballplatz mit seiner Tochter. Alle in der Stadt denken, er ist verrückt. Eines Tages zeigt sich Joe Jackson. Hi. Rick Kinsella. Joe Jackson. Er spielt Baseball auf dem Feld. Einige seiner alten Black Sox-Teammaten zeigen sich auf, alle acht, die aus dem Baseball geklopft wurden. Er hört die Stimme wieder.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Dieses Mal ist seine Frau mitten in einem Kampf mit dem Schulbord über das Bannen von bestimmten Büchern. Und eines der Bücher, die gebannt wurden, ist ein Buch von einem fiktionalen Autoren namens Terrence Mann, James Earl Jones' Charakter. und somehow Ray knows that he now has to go find Terrence Mann and bring him back to Iowa. He doesn't know why, he just does it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Wenn du es bauen kannst, wirst du verpasst.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Coincidentally, his wife, who maybe is starting to lose patience with him, has had a dream that Ray and Terrence Mann were at Fenway Park watching a Red Sox game, so she's again super on board this very, very crazy plan. One might say conveniently on board. One might. So he does that. They have another vision. They hear the voice again. Actually, they don't hear the voice this time.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
They just see on the Jumbotron. Moonlight Graham, who was a ball player who played in one inning, never got to hit. They go to Minnesota to find him. Moonlight Graham appears to them as an old man.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Was würdest du sagen, wenn ich gesagt hätte, ja? They've somehow transported back in time to the 70s because Moonlight Graham is long dead. I was going to ask about that. That is time travel.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
There is time travel in the film. That's right. He says, come with me basically to Iowa. There's a place where dreams can come true. Moonlight Graham turns them down. But then they're driving back and they meet a young man who they give a lift to and the young man turns out to be a young Moonlight Graham. They bring him back to the field. This is where it felt like Tenet, by the way.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Ja, und übrigens, lass mich gerade sagen, das ist jetzt nicht mehr ein, Quote, Elevator-Pitch. Der Elevator ist kaputt. Hier ist, was passiert, Pablo. Der Elevator ist kaputt und die Feuerwehr hat gesagt, wir brauchen etwa drei Stunden. Und ich war so, so lange wir hier sind, lass mich dir die Geschichte von Field of Dreams erzählen. So anyway, Moonlight Graham comes back. They play more baseball.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Terrence Mann is there. He can see all the ghosts. Some people can see the ghosts. Some people can't.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
A bunch of other stuff happens. The fire department just got here. We only have 30 seconds left. Oh, thank God. Der Punkt ist, dass am Ende des Tages der Er ist nicht Schulis Joe Jackson, sondern Ray's Vater. Ray hatte eine schwierige Beziehung mit seinem Vater. Als sein Vater lebte, sagten sie Dinge zu sich, die sie nicht zurücknehmen konnten.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Sein Vater zeigt sich als junger Mann am Ende des Films an. Sie haben einen Chat. Als er losgeht, sagt Ray Vater. Der Mann schlägt sich um und fragt, ob er einen Wurf haben möchte. Und die beiden beenden den Film, indem sie den Ball zurückwerfen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es ist ein guter Test für die Soziopathie, weil wenn du an diesem Moment nicht weinst, Ich denke, egal, wie du dich über den Rest des Films fühlst, ich denke, du bist eine schwarzhaarte, kalthaarte Seele, die keine menschlichen Emotionen hat. Es ist egal, ob du Baseball magst, ob du dich nicht um Baseball interessierst, was auch immer deine Beziehung zu deinen eigenen Eltern ist.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Wenn Kevin Costner sagt, Vater, willst du einen Catch? Wenn du keine Tränen in deinen Augen fühlst, ist etwas falsch mit dir.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
The thing that I found as the essence of the movie is a question. And the question is... What would you do to get five more minutes with a person you loved? What are the lengths you would go to to get five more minutes or a game of catch with someone you loved? And the answer that the movie suggests is anything. You would do anything. And this is part of why I took on the project of adapting it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
Es ist ein Film, der, besonders wenn du zu mir hörst, den Plot zu erklären, es klingt wie Bananen, richtig? Es ist so, dass dieser Film, diese Geschichte, als Narrativ nichts zu tun hat. Es hat nichts zu tun, dass es etwas sein sollte. Es sollte für Kevin Costner gewesen sein, was die Wasserwelt war, richtig? 100 Prozent. Ein berühmter Flop. Und trotzdem...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
To his credit, and to Phil Alden Robinson's credit, who made the movie, and to everyone's credit who was involved with it, for some goddamn reason, when the movie ends, you cry. And the whole thing, holistically... ends up feeling like you went on a sort of beautiful, magical journey.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The "Field of Dreams" That Hollywood Forgot
And listen, there are plenty of people who hate the movie or just think it's schlocky and think it's not a good baseball movie. It's not a good movie, period. I am not one of those people. I loved it when I first saw it. I still love it today. And that's why I decided to take on the project of trying to adapt it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
I wouldn't buy a pair of David Bowie's sunglasses at an auction. I do buy some baseball stuff as like, uh, you know, stuff that's meaningful to me, mostly Red Sox stuff from 2004.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Yeah, sure. He can change his entire view of the world and how it operates.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Literally while I was doing my Meadowlark Media Observations, it was announced that it's been picked up for season two. So it's good timing. I can announce that now here officially.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Happy birthday, Dan. Congratulations on another great year, everybody. Yes, thank you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Yeah, we're not going to talk about any of this. We're not going to actually talk about any of this. We're not going to talk about Mike Evans. We're not going to talk about Baker Mayfield. We're not going to talk about how the athletes are bigger, stronger, faster than they've ever been before. We're not going to talk about any of that, Dan.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
We're going to talk about something else, which is that it's your birthday today.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
We're going to talk about how it's your birthday, and also we're going to talk about how it's the end of 2024. And as a fan of the show and as a fan of Meadowlark Media, I, Mike Schur, have made some observations.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
2024 Meadowlark Media Observations. Wow. Is brought to you by the world champion Boston Celtics.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
That's right. The Celtics bought this sponsorship space just to piss off Mike Ryan one more time before the year ends. Look, what do you want me to do? The Celtics swooped in and bought this sponsorship to this segment just to piss you off one more time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
He was supposed to be the savior of New York City. The Big Apple was desperate for him to lead their fated franchise back to glory. But his body was too old and broken down. And instead of focusing on his job, he was off doing hallucinogenic drugs and making documentaries about himself. But dammit, I still have faith that he can return to his old MVP self.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Because this is one champion you can never count out. And Dan... Make no mistake about it. Just like that. Stu Gatz is back. Yes. Yes.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
WFAN's loss is Metal Ark's loss, I guess. Haven't had a chance to read Stu Gatz's book yet. But then again, neither has Stu Gatz.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
It's time for a 2024 Miami Heat roundup.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Coach Spoh. Bubble fraud. Good one without LeBron. What? Hey, this is my metal arc observations. You have your metal arc observations. I have mine. Tyler Hero. Do it in the playoffs. Jeremy Taché. Just shush. Just shush. Just stop talking for like two minutes. I literally beg you. Also, I had a great time on the pitch clock. Please have me back.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
He's the only other person I know who likes baseball. The Miami Heat are floating Jimmy Butler trade rumors again. Hey, does anyone want to pay a 36-year-old clubhouse poison $52 million next year? That's a tempting offer, Pat, but I'll pass. Unfortunately for Stugatz, the only team I can imagine falling for that is the New York Jets. The New York Jets might sign Jimmy Butler. Miami Hurricanes.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
The rare top flight blue blood football program to make an appearance in the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Hey, you know what the H in hurricane stands for, Dan? I do not. It stands for... They ended up in the Pop-Tarts Bowl. The trophy is a football that actually totes Pop-Tarts. That's where Mike Ryan's blue blood top flight program ended up.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Bought his way right into the goddamn Pop-Tarts Bowl. It's a prestigious bowl, Mike. It is. All right. Here come the Rockets. Shout out to Jessica Spatana. Notre Dame football made the playoff. Notre Dame women's basketball just beat UConn. Top five program. Steelers are the team no one wants to play in the playoffs.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
And the rest of you jamokes, meanwhile, just root for a bunch of awful loser teams. And she has to sit there every week and listen to you talk about how the Dolphins have a 2% chance to get the seventh seed of the Colts finished with three straight ties.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
That's right. She has the patience of Job, that woman. Lucy Rodin somehow convinced Meadowlark to pay her to travel all over the country and go to college football games. I couldn't convince Meadowlark to host my not-for-profit baseball podcast on their podcasting network. How did she do it?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Hey, I have another Meadowlark media drinking game. We all do a shot of whiskey every time David Sampson says de minimis. Oh, the cost is de minimis. Oh, the overall expenditure is de minimis. It's really de minimis. No, it's de minimis. You know what the D in David Sampson stands for, Dan?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
I'll ask you again. He's de minimis. No, it stands for don't ever give him my phone number. Oh, okay. Good guess, though.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
That's right. We're not teammates. Because of business people like him. Hey, Dan Levitard is 56 years old today, everyone. And I'll tell you something else. He doesn't look a day... Under 56 years old. Dan Levitard. Do it at 57.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
You went right from 44 to 56. You quantum leaped.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Top five handsomest men who are 56 years old. Oh, wow. Number five, Will Smith. Number four, Aaron Eckhart. Number three, Daniel Craig. Number two, Hugh Jackman. What? And the number one handsomest 56-year-old man, Timothy Oliphant. I guess Dan didn't make the list. Metal Ark Media in a contract year. Trying to make a good impression on DraftKings. Hey, I know what'll seal the deal.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
More Tony's Top 5. Ha ha ha ha!
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
nothing makes a company want to give you tens of millions of dollars like sending a guy to do a pointless remote from a random spot in south florida on a three-second radio lag saying you know i don't entirely trust nick sirianni hey hey you can't get analysis like that just anywhere only at meadowlark media why do you not why is that joke lost on you but you don't get the show on me
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
It's not lost on me. Currently at DraftKings, Metal Ark Media is plus 380 to get a new contract from DraftKings.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
The Dan Levitard Show with Stu Gatz. Celebrating their 20th anniversary with a 45-part audio documentary about itself. Hey, you know what people want? Us talking about us for a thousand hours.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
The Dan Levitard Show with Stu Gatz. The Stu Gatz is strong in you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Dan Lembichardt show with Stu Gatz. 20 years old. Too young to go to a bar. But too old for former Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz. What happened there? What happened? In all seriousness, Metal Ark Media had a great 2024. And anyone who says differently can go straight to hell. And when you get there, say hello to Parakeet Cortez for me. And tell Parakeet to say hello to Jimmy Butler for me.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
And tell Butler to say hello to David Samson for me. And tell Samson to go back to Parakeet Cortez and tell him to go straight to hell. That's right. Even though Parakeet is already in hell in this scenario, I still want Samson to go tell him to go straight to hell. And then tell Parakeet Cortez to say hello to Art Bryles.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
You go to hell, too. You go to hell, too. Yeah. And when you get there, yeah, that's right, on your 56th birthday, you go to hell and say hello to Art Bryles. Those are the Meadowlark Media 2024. Thank you. Happy birthday!
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
The Miami Heat and all their fans. and Heat Culture, and Jeremy Taché, and Coach Spoh, and Bam Adebayo, and the corpse of Kevin Love can all go to hell. Stoogatz. And when they get there, say hello to Parakeet Cortez for me. And then tell Parakeet to say hello to Art Bryles.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
I mean, I bid on it. I'll tell you that much. I dropped out way before it got to where it got to, but I did bid on it. So, yeah, it's possible it's a Red Sox fan. My guess, though, would be that it's probably like the Guggenheim family that owns the Dodgers who want to put it on display in Dodger Stadium. That would be my actual guess.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
But, yeah, a whole lot of Red Sox fans sent me texts saying like, hey, look, look what you can buy. And a whole lot of Red Sox fans I know were bidding on it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
I'm sure he has David Bowie, too. I'm more normal, although I do have some. I have some 2004. This bat behind me is a David Ortiz bat from the 2004 season. So I have stuff like that. That was actually a gift. My friend Drew got that for me as a present. But I do have some stuff like that. I'm not, like, fetishistic about, like... someone's sunglasses. Like I, you know, like I, I like David Bowie.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
Hey, fellas. It's Mike Schur. I have some Val Kilmer memories. He hosted in December of, I think, 2000. I remember it was a holiday show. I think the monologue was like a Ghost of Christmas Future kind of a deal. And I remember him being very intense, but very nice and sort of down for anything. Scott Wainio wrote an incredible sketch called
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
It was a behind the music parody, which was like the biggest show at the time. And it was based on the old saying that if there's a heaven, they must have a hell of a band, which is what people used to sort of in a cliched way say about the deaths of Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix and people like that. So the idea was it was the band that those people had all formed in heaven and
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And Val Kilmer did his Jim Morrison impression, which was incredible. And it was wonderful. And they got the real guy from behind the music to narrate it. And side note, Wainio got that guy to record the outgoing message on Wainio's answering machine. So for a while when you called Wainio –
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And you got his machine, the guy from behind the music would say, Scott is not here right now because his life is falling apart due to drugs and infighting. And it was great. Anyway, Robert Carlock had a great idea for a sketch, which was, it was like 25 years after... the events of Top Gun and Iceman had retired from the Navy and was now flying very boring commercial flights for Delta.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And so I wrote it with him and Parnell played the pilot and Iceman was the co-pilot. And so Parnell would get on the PA system and be like, Hello, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Our flight time from Cincinnati to Hartford will be two hours and 20 minutes. And then Val Kilmer would get on the thing and go like, there's bogeys, bogeys, nine o'clock. We got bogeys on our tail.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And then Parnell would grab it back and go... That is incorrect. There are no bogeys. There will not be any bogeys on this flight from Cincinnati to Hartford. It was a very funny, silly sketch, but very fun. So at the show, we went to the floor to watch it live, and Tom Cruise came to the show, and Marcy walked him down.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And he was on the floor, like, standing eight feet away from me watching this sketch and just enjoying it a great deal. And Marcy came over to me while the sketch was airing and was like, Tom Cruise is here. Should we get him to, like, walk on? And I was like, yes, of course we should. And she was like, what should he do?
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And I was like, okay, just tell him, like, at the end of the sketch, like, I remember I told her what the last line of the sketch was. And I was like, at the end of the sketch, just have him walk on and grab Val Kilmer and just say, like, hey, Iceman, let's get you out of here, bud. Come on. Or something like that. And she was like, okay.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
So she went over to him, and she was whispering into his ear on the floor, and I saw Tom Cruise nodding. Like, I remember very clearly he was nodding, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I get it, I get it. And I was like, oh, my God, this is going to be incredible.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
And literally, I'm not joking, Tom Cruise took a step toward the set, like, heading over to walk on, and the sketch ended, and the applause was cued, and Val got whisked away to rest. And we, like, we missed it by, like, I would say eight seconds. We missed a Tom Cruise walk-on into the sketch, which would have just, like, you know, 30 Rock would have, like, crumbled to the ground.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
Anyway, RIP Val Kilmer. Miss you guys.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
Hey guys, it's Mike Schur here with the weekly listener opinion on Space Olympics that you asked for. I love Space Olympics.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
We did not ask. Like Phil Lord after he saw it for the first time eight days ago. I can say it is absolutely one of my all-time favorites. It has two of my favorite tropes. First, intensely passionate singing about something incredibly mundane.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
like belting out super serious details of the logistics of the space olympics is wonderful my favorite moment of course being and all other events are pending like that that's as boring a lyric as you could possibly write and singing it with that terrible auto-tune crescendo a plus the second trope i love the impossible situation of a person singing about things that are happening in real time
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
Not to jump ahead, but Jack Sparrow has this too, which is that like somehow the lyric in the finished song for which there is a video is Michael Bolton, I'm going to need you to focus up. Like, how do we both exist in the reality? where the guys are angry at Michael Bolton for what he's doing, but also have made and completed this song in video. You get why it's funny. You guys made it.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
Anyway, Space Olympics has that too. Somehow Andy is singing that all the oxygen has run out. Like, is this being broadcast live to the athletes, I guess? Is that the situation? Like, how does this work? Anyway, it's fantastic.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
Wonderfully stupid and hilarious. It takes a full minute to even establish what the premise is, which I appreciate. And for the record, I certainly do not agree with Akiva that Space Olympics is, and I quote, the single worst thing we've ever done, nor is it, and I quote again, Andy's worst idea. And also I quote Akiva saying it makes Battlefield Earth look like frigging Shakespeare.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Listener Q&A Episode 5
That's what he said. I don't agree with any of that. I think it's wonderful. Anyway, love you guys. Bye.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
And it was just him doing a farewell concert.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
I should also say feels crazy to say it now. It sounded a little bit nuts that you were leaving to reboot that popular British show. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it was.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
The two most emotional things I watched in that office were both with you, which was the Christmas episode of The Office and Game 7 of the Yankees Red Sox. That's right. Yeah. So there were some very good things that happened in that office.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
You took your time. It was really intense. I thought your internet had gone out. I would also say not necessarily syllabus either. No, no. There's another category. Okay. Kim's videos. Ooh, like cool underground. Yeah. Like all Tim's videos was a video store in New York that like the cine files would go to.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
And the people who worked there were sort of like the Jack black for music in high fidelity. Right? Like, Oh, you know, this is the one you want to watch young Chuck Norris. Maybe it's Kim's video. I think so. Yes. Okay. A tangent. Kim's videos. I don't even think it's Kim's video.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
All right. I think that's probably one of the nicer things anybody's ever said about the tangent. Close talkers.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
I mean, if there was anything we proved that episode is that Steve Martin can be written for so poorly that it doesn't work. That it ruined Steve Martin. Not ruined Steve Martin. It's just he can't save it.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
And when I go on a boat, I take out my phone and I make everybody watch Close Talkers.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Like that if you said, I have a boat, we'd be like, where you keep it? Don't track tap it. Where you keep it? Natalie's rap. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Again, you know, we talked about it on that episode. Completely created a whole new thing. Yeah. You're in it too, Seth. I mean, we should know. I am in it. You have a lyric. I have that golden touch.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Welcome to a very special episode of The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast. Before we start, I want to stress that we've put exactly as much thought into this episode as all previous episodes, which is not much. but I am joined by two luminaries who are going to help us select the criterion collection of the first 34 shorts we have covered on the podcast.
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The Criterion Episode
and like top of top of mind but steve martin you don't think of close talkers is that what you're getting at okay that's correct yeah to his benefit the other thing about natalie rapping is it was a burden for the guys that they rose too many times because of course then every host did want that right right and the incredible thing they did was not fall into the trap of doing other reps
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Yes. That's great. And I'm very excited to find out you guys have never met because this pod works on a stranger chemistry. If anything, the people who listen to it like the fact that nobody here knows each other.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Because every, I shouldn't say every, 95% of celebrities think they can rap. And the fact that they only did the one who could to an impressive level was, you know.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
They have incredible, for real, like the most incredibly high ethical standards. Ethical is such a funny way of putting it, but it is true. Doppelganger.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Now we're going to get to at least two more. Do you believe any laser cats? I stick with just number one.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Criterion Collection named their better one Harpoon after Harpoon Man. So Citizen Kane is Harpoon. I see. In the criteria. Gotcha. So that's actually a cold run for our geniuses insofar as they were not churning out criterion. But then, of course, Dick in the Box. Yes, of course. Dick in the Box holds, based on the 3,072 votes we had, the most yeses.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
And Mozart has comedy chops. Yeah, man. Because it's not just the singing. It's the real funny moves. And you put Wig and Maya in the background, yeah.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
That goes in the Shur collection. Absolutely. Let me tell you something. Mike Shur will write a dumbass name. Off the top of your head, I wish I had done some of my research. Classic Shur name. Do you have any to throw out for us?
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
He had aired. That thing aired. One of my all-time favorite. Flenderson bows.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
hate it and he stormed back inside and then it was for flenderson's giant car bows which is like when you want to present your spouse with a new car for christmas you got to get a flenderson's every time i see one of those ads i think about my dad trying to get a bow around a car on christmas morning and the amount of like that's fucking bow uh all right body fusion
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
I would say Kim's videos. Yeah, that's fair. That's a classic Kim's video. Andy popping into frame. No. No. Business meeting.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
I think it has a unique on its own. I think it's ESPN Classic. Oh, new category. New category. ESPN Classic. ESPN Classic. All right.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
It would have been way better if you were like, because I don't ever remember liking.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
Dear sister. Yes. I agree. I'm not going to tell you much about the voters, but I will tell you they do too.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
The Criterion Episode
I like the ones where the cat knows how to drive. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I'm just disappointed. I'm like, ugh. Oh, I ran so far.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Brian Diaries. No. No, and I will say- You should probably recuse yourself.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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I thought we were- Just because it's like Newsman v. Newsman. It's not Newsman v. Newsman. People getting punched right before eating. No. No. Kim's videos, though. Grandkids in the movies. No.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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I think it hit the ceiling of what it is.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Yeah. I still think for me, and it's why it's a solid Kim's videos is that I love so much when Andy sings big and gets so far over his skis. And so like, when I think of like favorite lyrics of mine that make me smile, every time I think about him, it's just like, like, it's just the best.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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There you go. Right. Hey, I wrote down something, Shirk. So Mike and I met, and I do want to establish, because I think the history of SNL is a big part of this podcast. Mike and I are dear friends, but you were more than a friend when I started the show. You were, I feel like, my first, and I think to succeed at SNL, you need many of these. You were my first life raft. Yeah.
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It is that trick where the reaction is almost makes you judge it more than the actual work. If you watched it quietly in a room, you wouldn't feel that way.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Laser Cats 3D. No. No. Daiquiri Girl. No. No. Best look in the world. No. No. A hardcore Kim's video for me.
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I feel like that's the dude where a guy slides it across the counter. He's like, hey, you want comedy? Because I will say, much like Roy Rule's lyrics, cool breeze tickling your knee pits is as good a line as they've ever written.
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As I was struggling at that place, I could always come to your room. You were running Weekend Update at the time, so you were a man with a far bigger job than I had. And I would come to your room, and I would pitch you dumb ideas, and we would often write them up. And a lot of them went to dress before getting cut. But we got to wear costumes and see what the set looked like, and that was fun.
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And on the 34th one, we run into our first logic problem. We knew we'd get there eventually. All right. So just to go through, you guys said yes to Lazy Sunday, Natalie's rap. Dick in a Box, you said yes. Yes on Dear Sister.
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A yes that I ran so far. A yes on The Mirror. You were split on Laser Cats. Mm-hmm. A split on Andy's dad. And I think that's basically where we are. I'm going to bring in our final guest, who is Alan Sepinwall, who is joining us now. Hello, Alan.
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Alan is a television critic for Rolling Stone. I think he was the first person who recapped television. Maybe not the first, but one of the first. We used to just watch TV and that would be, you'd never think about it again. And then Alan was like, no, I'm going to write. We did it for the Sprannos and NYPD Blue.
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He's written a great many books, two books on the OC, Breaking Bad, book on the Sprannos. He and Matt Zoller Seitz wrote a great book about the 100 greatest television shows. Alan, thank you for joining us.
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You've been listening a little bit and I just want to open the floor. Have these two made any terrible mistakes?
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But I just had an idea for a sketch, and I realized, I was like, oh, this would be a sketch I would come to your office to tell you about. Great. So just flashback, it's 2001. Okay. You know, it's October 01.
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I agree with that 100%. Yeah. So you missed, we did say though, what if there were like two other categories? One is additional reading, which is these are important if you were doing a college course on it. And another would be Kim's videos, which is this is not, you know, high art. But if you're sort of like a deep cut fan. Outsider art. Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, it's got the two Chrises, the big two. Yes. You know, kids, before it was like Evans and Pratt and Pine. Our Chrises were Dodd and Walken. Alan, is it safe to say that you were a fan, having written two books about the OC, that you were a fan of Dear Sister?
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And I walk in your office, I go- Oh, God, wait, is it?
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Okay, great. Let's meet at your apartment. So my idea is like there's a serial killer and you know he's got that like thing where he's like plastic all over the room. Sure. He's just done one of his kills and there's a knock at the door and it's someone who says, I grew up in this house, can I look around?
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It did not require any knowledge of the OC. And I would argue that while OC fans might have liked that moment of, oh, I recognize this. I don't think OC fans enjoyed it any more than, say, I did not having known the scene. Agreed.
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Interesting. She worked on the show when that episode aired?
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Does she remember where she was? In the backfield.
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I also, because again, it speaks to the integrity of the ethics of these guys. It was not the cheap nostalgia where you get a laugh because everybody recognizes what you're doing. It was genuinely not built on that. It was, they were nostalgic for it, but they knew that that had no currency with their audience.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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And anything else, Alan? We do appreciate you coming on. I feel like they just had to have some quality control here. Smart.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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I think that might be like in a, I don't know, grad school program on Fred.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Yeah. At one point, this is Nick Fane, but it didn't start at Nick Fane.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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OK, we get it. All right. Fucking the one I wrote isn't criterion. Jesus. Back to it a third time. Oh, my God. Great.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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And just to echo what you said earlier, every single one of these is fun to go back and watch.
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Yeah, purposefully. We're appreciating their excellence.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Agreed. And just real quick, and I do appreciate your time, before we go, Jake, if you could just help me do the ad read for, we're doing MSNBC is the sponsor, and I would love to get you to join in for that. Hired of the news?
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All right, I can't put it on a tee and then be mad at Tapper for taking a great big hack.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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I love Criterion Collection. I do feel like in recent years they've maybe expanded a little bit. Have they? I'm all for it, by the way. But, you know, all of a sudden it's like Tremors or whatever. I don't know if that's it. But I feel like there's a couple like... Tremors is good. Tremors is good. But if you, you know, like all of a sudden if you're like, oh, okay.
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All right, gentlemen, thank you. I really appreciate this special episode.
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Of course I was. Well, I know, I would feel insincere if I did. So let me just say, with a firm handshake, I appreciated our time together.
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That's really nice. Good job. Love you guys. Hey everybody, this is Seth. We've just signed off with Mike and Jake and Alan, and we wanted to do a quick recap. We realized that would be a helpful thing to do here at the end. So as I see it, and I do want to talk one last time with our Lonely Island trio to make sure they sign off as well.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Here are the no-brainer Criterion Collection nominees after our first 34. Lazy Sunday is in. Natalie's Rap is in. Dick in a Box is in. Dear Sister is in. I Ran So Far is in. So those are the five for sure. And then there were two yes votes for The Mirror from Mike and Jake, but The Mirror did not receive a plurality of votes from you, the listeners.
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Andy's dad did receive a plurality but did not receive 75% of the plurality and was a split vote between Jake and Mike. So I'm going to ask the guys how they feel about that. People getting punched almost got 75% from the voters. Two nos from our guest pickers. So that one will come up as well. And then we are going to have to discuss laser cats. Laser cats received over 75% of the vote.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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It got a yes from Jake. It got a no from Mike. It got a yes from Alan. So on that, I feel as though we're going to have to let the guys be maybe the tiebreaker. So we have five in for sure. We have three maybes, and I also want to run down with the trio how they feel about our Kim's videos, how they feel about the additional reading selections as well. All right. Thanks, everybody, for listening.
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Thanks one last time to Alan and Mike and Jake. And the next time I'll be back, it'll be with the fellas. All right. Be well, all.
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I do want to shout out, only for the purposes that then we'll find a clip and play my terrible British accent, but you wrote one of my favorite sketches that I got to be in at a time where, again, life raft era, just being in a sketch was very important. Sure. You wrote one of my favorite all-time sketches, Hot Air Mystery Balloon Theater. Yeah.
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We are joined by Mike Schur and Jake Tapper. Hello, gentlemen.
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Do please explain where the idea came from and who the host was.
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Hello, how are you, Seth? It's about time. I'm really good.
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It was a four time because I will say it aired with Ian McKellen, who seemed like the perfect person for it.
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Yeah, okay. Slow your roll, Tapper. So real quick, just credits-wise, Mike Schur and I met at SNL. He then went on to work on The Office, played Mose on The Office. Thank you. He's created a bunch of shows, Parks and Rec, Good Place, Man on the Inside right now, Ted Danson on Netflix, just got picked up for season two. Congratulations.
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I was our Mason until Hayter showed up.
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Yeah, a little. Pretty good. You know, again, I fell out of favor. I fell out of favor once. Bill did all the dead British people once he showed up.
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The other thing, well, two things I want to say about it. One, it was then there's the hallways of SNL. have black and white photos from sketches of throughout the years. And the best pictures are from sketches that have a lot of people in them that have really funny costumes. The mise-en-scene of Hot Air Mystery Balloon Theater is great.
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And I remember that was the first sketch I was in that was on the wall. Oh, wow. I was always looking for like touchstones where I'm like, well, they're not going to fire a guy. It was on the wall. They framed it. Just think of the money they paid on the framing. And the other thing about resubmissions is a lesson I learned is you don't tell the host.
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I remember once saying, I'm so happy we're doing this. This is like the fifth time I've submitted it. And then the host who thought they had inspired you is like, oh.
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Why would I do it? So I'm just word meat. You're like, yeah.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Fantastic. So you know how great the photo is.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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All right. Now, just on logistics, because we started talking about the idea of naming the Criterion Collection shorts. We did not discuss what that really meant, but we did reach out to viewers and let them vote without giving them any rules. They very clearly picked some over others. My question to you guys before we get started is,
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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What percentage of shorts do you believe should be criterion collection? Not judging, but like, is it the top 25%? Is it the top 33%? What do you think rises to it?
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Most importantly, though, for the purposes of this, Brooklyn Nine-Nine with Andy Samberg. So there is a connection, multiple connection points, really, considering the SNL time as well. And then Jake does news stuff. I do. So you guys reached out because you have some thoughts.
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All right. I also feel as though we're going to have different. So in the NFL, Pro Bowl voting, you have the fans, the players and the coaches. So I do want to let you guys know. A perfect system. You will be at best a third of this voting block.
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3,000 plus. Really? Yeah, we had 3,000 plus vote.
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I feel it's I feel looking at the results.
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Jake, we gave you a list of words we didn't want to hear on this pod. Filibuster was definitely on it. Very disappointing how quickly- Markup, committee, appropriations. All right. So this is very interesting. I'm going to say just for fun, 75 percent. And it was actually three thousand seventy two voters. So that's twenty three or four.
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And I'll tell you that six only six of the thirty four from the fans, which is about right. I think that's what we're talking about. Yeah. So I guess my question to you guys is, do you want to talk about the no brainers of the first thirty four that you think are criterion?
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I feel like I do want a category for lettuce, which I feel like I want to call syllabus. I think that's fair. Right? Like it's on the syllabus if it's a class.
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Of course. Yes. All right. So there we have our first.
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That's a very funny way, like, I remember where I was. Where were you? I was there. I was there. Yeah. Well, then that's obviously you remember.
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I, my dad, rest in peace, Frank O'Harris. We had dinner. I don't know if I told you this. We had dinner in Pittsburgh with Frank O'Harris. And I know a lot of people listening to this podcast might not be huge football fans, but Franco Harris was the centerpiece of the most famous play in NFL history called the Immaculate Reception. And we sat down for dinner with him.
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And of course, my dad told him where he was during the Immaculate Reception. And I then said to Franco Harris, I go, I bet you're the only guy that doesn't have to tell people, doesn't feel the need to tell people. And then he immediately, which is really funny, goes, I'll never forget where I was. I was in the backfield.
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I want to say that your last, I was very sad when you left SNL, sure. I felt very a C, as you famously like to say. Kind of you to say. And do you remember your last table read? I think it was also the end of Seinfeld, so it was a really hard time for me. But I read a sketch about the guy who played the bass that was the transition music out of Seinfeld, like boom, boom, boom, boom.