The Bizarro Sporting Class: How to Buy a Hollywood Studio
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. It's bad for writers, bad for actors, bad for directors, and bad for consumers. Right after this ad.
Did you send the link to Mike?
No, I sent a fake link to a TikTok.
Cortez, could you give me the link in Slack? Okay. I gotta just text it to Mike. Are we rolling?
How do the hosts define the current state of Hollywood?
Okay, perfect. Thank you, guys. There he is. So I gotta own what's happened, which is that I thought that Joe had sent you a Zoom link to join, Mike. And it turns out that it wasn't a Zoom link. Here's the thing.
I've worked with Joe for... I don't know, 15 years now. If you ask him for something and he responds... The first thing that you should always think is, whatever I wanted, this is not what I have gotten.
Well, you didn't ask specifically for a Zoom link.
You just asked for a link, and I sent you a link. I just wrote link, question mark, and then we got what we got. Yeah. Which is, to be very clear, what, Joe?
It's a TikTok of a man somewhere in South America wearing Joker makeup.
I can't wake up! Wake me up inside! Say!
and juggling tennis balls while he and a woman nearby sing a Linkin Park song. No, wait, it's not Linkin Park. It's Evanescence, right? Whatever. I don't know. Yeah, Evanescence. Wow. I thought that was Linkin Park, Wake Me Up Inside. No, that's Evanescence, buddy.
Oh.
You and this Joker's culture is not, yeah, it's not your costume.
What role does AI play in the future of content creation?
Why so knowledgeable about Evanescence?
At the end of this episode, we're going to reveal the thing we promised at the end of the last episode we did together. Joe Mandy, Mike Schur, thank you for coming back on the show in this format together. Yeah, I love it. Our pleasure. So there will be the reveal of that. Should we say more beyond that? We're going to make Mike guess what is stitched into it.
Yes. On eBay, I found the hat I was thinking of, which is... Minnesota Timberwolves hat with their MT logo from the 90s. So you have some time to think what word. I have like, I have 55 minutes to try to figure out what MT means.
Time that is otherwise being spent, I think, on, yeah, the story that I want to talk to you guys about because I was reading all of the news about this that I could about what's happening to Warner Brothers. And we do a show here on Palpatory Finds Out Show sometimes called The Sporting Class.
Okay.
And it's about sports business from the perspective of these executives, John Skipper and David Sampson.
Right.
And this is kind of like the opposite of that, but for Hollywood is what I want to try to do here because you are, you're labor.
Yes. I'm a peasant. I'm a serf.
You are a serf. And what is Mike in your estimation?
I think Mike is a... That would make you a vassal, right? Like a lord. You're more of a lord.
Not quite like a feudal lord, but like a... Who was in charge of making sure the serfs did all of their daily labor and then reported up to the lord?
To the lord, yeah. Barry Weiss, I think. Yeah, she's a lord. She's in charge of all of it. I did just Google who was Surf's boss. And the lord of the manor is what the AI overview that is increasingly at the heart of this story has indicated to me. But in all seriousness, Mike, you had to get clearance to talk about this because your role in this is not merely as a lord of some manor, as a showrunner who's made many, many... very good and successful shows. You're a knight. Mike's a knight. Oh, yeah.
How are writers and actors affected by industry mergers?
Okay, that's good. I'll take it. As a knight of the WGA, can you explain what your sort of life has been like as we've been seeing who is going to buy Warner Brothers? Will it be Netflix? Will it be Paramount and the Ellisons? What the f*** has your life been like? Tell us, sir, sir.
I don't know.
Yay, verily. So I was a member of the WGA negotiating committee in 2023 when the WGA and then SAG both went on strike. WGA for five months, SAG for a little bit longer. And the issues that we were facing then, which we're still facing now, are a massive industry contraction is the main one. what has now been called peak TV kind of hit around 2018, 2019, something like that.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:31
2
How do the hosts define the current state of Hollywood?
0:31–1:56
3
What role does AI play in the future of content creation?
1:56–4:26
4
How are writers and actors affected by industry mergers?
4:26–8:24
5
What insights do the guests provide about Warner Bros' bidding war?
8:24–11:09
6
Who are the key players in the bidding for Warner Bros?
11:09–13:06
7
What implications do mergers have for consumers of entertainment?
13:06–20:28
8
How does the episode conclude with a unique auction reveal?
20:28–51:22
Speakers
3 identifiedMore from Pablo Torre Finds Out
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