Mike Schur

Joe and I both work on Hacks.

Joe's been writing for Hacks from the beginning.

It's a show I produce.

It's really run by our friends, Jen, Paul, and Lucia.

And he asked to meet with them early on.

And he was incredibly complimentary about the show and talked about how much he loved the show and how great he thought it was.

And said his favorite character was Ray, the hotel clerk, which I... Joe's character, yeah.

Who worked at the hotel.

There is an aspect of this where...

this class of person, they do genuinely, I think at some level, love Hollywood.

They love it.

It's like... Because Hollywood's like fun and it's glamorous and it's exciting and there's... And making movies is fun and TV shows and actors and like parties on rooftop bars in Hollywood.

Like this... It is... There isn't... They're not...

they don't think of it necessarily in the coldest possible terms.

I think they genuinely, a lot of them have a genuine affection for Hollywood.

I think it's probably the only reason Hollywood still exists at some level is because these folks still think that it's cool.

And it seems like a wild thing to say, but it is a prerequisite of owning one of these companies.

You have to like it.

You have to think that movies and TV shows are cool and want to genuinely keep making them.

What gets in the way is their sort of ruthless business sense of how can we make everything as efficient as it can possibly be.