Mikki Brammer

And then, yeah, I was queering in the pandemic.

A lot of people said, you know, I don't think a book about death can sell right now.

A lot of agents said that.

And I was like, really?

You know, maybe this could be the time.

And then luckily the agent who was my dream agent, Michelle Brower at Trellis, she knew exactly what I was trying to do and that I was writing an uplifting, hopeful book about death.

And she sent it to the editors that went to auction and I got a two book deal with St.

Martin's and it sold in a lot of territories.

I think it's actually 27 languages now that it's in, I'm not sure, but...

and it's been great the response has been amazing the word of mouth you know that's kind of the one thing you can't orchestrate and it's been really nice to see that three years later people are still talking about it and connecting with it and then the second book good joy bad joy you know I thought I was actually done with death and turned out that wasn't so it has a little bit of that but hopefully it's I would say more existential than you know there is there are

is that theme of her losing her friend but hopefully there's still that uplifting and this is a very late coming of age she's 89 but again I believe that you know coming of age doesn't have to be that traditional late teens early 20s venturing into the world for the first time I think life sometimes delays when you get to be a coming of age especially if you become a mother or wife young or you're parentified if you lose a parent and have to kind of take care of

the other parent or your younger sibling so I'm really interested in that and yes and it's coming out on May 5th.

Yeah, that's an interesting question because two book deals, you know, everybody wants a two book deal.

And it is a wonderful thing because, you know, you get a second shot regardless of how your first one does.

But the other side of that is that you've kind of already, you know, I sold the second book just on like a two line synopsis when I sold Clover.

And then when it came time to write that, which I did try to start before Clover came out, but it was kind of around that time.

And it wasn't really working, but I was like, well, I committed to this idea, so I'm going to have to see it through.

I did it, sent it to my editors, because I had three editors at once, UK, US, Australia, because they all bought it simultaneously in two book deals, which again is a great thing, but also you have three cooks in the kitchen, so...

And so they were kind of like, you know, this isn't quite it.

Do you want to have another go?