Miles Parks

Well, I want to dig into also how this is impacting free speech as well.

But we'll get into that after a quick break.

And we're back.

And we've been talking about all these new novel ways that the Department of Homeland Security is surveilling people.

We've been focusing at this point on people being surveilled out in the world.

But I'm curious, Kat, on if we're also seeing new tactics play out, tracking people's lives online.

Wait, so these are people who have posted online, like, indicating they've done criminal activity or something like that?

Or these are people – why is the government able to basically request information on these people?

I mean, the other thing I'm curious about is a lot of what we talked about, less so with this online activity, but talking about this woman in Minnesota and what happened in Maine, kind of related to the increased immigration enforcement efforts we saw last year that we know have been scaled back this year.

Do we have a sense on whether the surveillance activity has also similarly scaled back or what is going on, I guess, at this moment related to all of this?

What about the impact, I guess, on the people who you spoke to who have interacted with these surveillance efforts?

I mean, what have they said about how it has sort of kind of changed their lives or changed their behavior?

All right.

Well, we can leave that there for today.

Kat and Jude, thank you so much for sharing all this great reporting with us.

And tomorrow on the show, we're going to get into the economic impact of the ongoing war in Iran.

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I'm Myles Parks.

I cover voting.

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