Mind Pump Host (likely Sal, Adam or Justin)

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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth · 2595: Mike Israetel Unplugged (Explicit Content) · 12 May 2025 podcast

Yeah, like behavioral psychology. I mean, talk about, I mean, I'd love to hear because you have a PhD, right? So were you at one point? Were you the pencil neck nerd who was like that all science, all study? Or did you have a nice blend of experience and hands-on while also going through your PhD?

Tell me a little bit about your personal journey of coming kind of full circle as a coach, of kind of knowing how to meld all the science with the psychology, with everything. What's that been like for you?

Every meal he'll weigh and he'll track too. Right.

Let's go there. You just reminded me of like, I talk about this on our show a lot. One of the clients that I remember, the type of a client I remember helping a lot was exactly that. Maybe not Wall Street, but they were busy moms, under eating, loved the Orange Theory boot camp classes six days a week.

couldn't you know couldn't lose weight whatsoever so that what i used to call cortisol junkies you know saying i swear that that this is the workout they needed and many times getting them to eat a little more scale back their training like half the days long rest periods and boom all of a sudden this this client who was training six days a week eating so little pushing their body all of a sudden starts responding what's going on there so much

Agreed. I 100% agreed. And I think a big part of that also is just people are kind of redlining with stress anyway. And so adding a ton of exercise, your body not only is not going to adapt, it's going to try to survive and hold on to what it can and makes fat loss very difficult. You're not sleeping well. You got kids. You're stressed out.

You're going to add a bunch of extra stress on your body with six days a week of exercise and you're not going to eat properly. Good luck. It's not going to work.

Mm-hmm.

No, you don't.

Hey, you know, Mike, can you think of a piece of advice? that you've 180'd on in your journey. I'll give you a big one for me. I started personal training when I was 20 years old. I'm 43 now. And I remember doing intake forms and asking the client, you know, what do you do for exercise right now? And they'd say things like, oh, I walk with my husband for an hour every day.

And I would scoff at that. That's not fucking exercise because I'm doing the math of you're only burning this many calories and we got this far to go. That doesn't mean, and I would laugh at it. Yet I look at myself in my forties. That's typically the very first piece of advice I now give to somebody. Well, what are we doing? Let's try and take a couple of 10 minute walks a day.

And so that's something that I used to scoff at as a 20 year old, as somebody who's been training for two decades. It's one of the first things that I advise. Do you have some things like that, that you remember saying one thing when you were first getting into the industry to now you've completely 180. Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that you said that. So one of the big waves that we made 10 years ago when we started this podcast, we actually made these shirts that were, was Dunkin' Donuts? Is it Dunkin'?

Krispy Kreme logo. And it said our brand in the middle of it. And then it said, I-I-F-Y-M sucks. And we, and it was right in the, it was in the height of that being asked for trouble. Oh yeah, totally. But then this was what we tried to articulate.

And this is again, through years of experience, I realized what you just said is I could tell a client, if you ate whole foods, I said, we don't even get to track calories. Go eat. I'd tell clients, go eat as much as you want. So long as it's these foods from this group. And I give them a whole list of meats and veggies and starches that you can eat and just be like, eat from that list.

When you're hungry, eat. And all I want you to do is eat your protein first. And that's the only thing we're going to track is that. And everybody lost weight. Everybody got in shape. As soon as I start to allow them to introduce processed foods, snacks and quick things, and this is even sometimes the negative part of even like protein bars because they're basically glorified Snickers bars.

You know, a little bit of extra protein. They were engineered.

to hijack that satiate that feeling that our body tells us to stop wanting any more food and it just made it 10 times harder so i love that you come out and you say that because of course uh if you've been a bodybuilder uh ifym is something that you've definitely you know understand follow you've found a way to get your treats here and there or have your cheat day and make it work but for the average person never never it's a terrible strategy for most people it really is i

I wanted to circle back to the GLP-1 for a second, Mike. What are you seeing on the other effects of the GLP-1s? There's lots of reports of people who stopped smoking or not drinking anymore or interesting effects on maybe the hedonistic aspects of certain activities. Are you hearing about any of this?

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