Mind Pump Host (likely Sal, Adam or Justin)

speaker

76 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard May 2025 last heard May 2025

Mind Pump Host (likely Sal, Adam or Justin)’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

Trend

recordings per month · last 12 months

No recordings in the last 12 months.Older appearances are listed below; set an alert to hear about the next one.

Appearances

newest first · ▶ plays the moment

Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth · 2595: Mike Israetel Unplugged (Explicit Content) · 12 May 2025 podcast

Mike, where are you at in, you know, this is so since we're here and I've heard you kind of tongue in cheek, talk about your drivers and your, you know, body dysmorphia and stuff like that.

where are you personally at in your own journey with all your wisdom your experience obviously your level you've reached already like what are what are the demons you're trying to fight or sort out or like where are you at with your own personal journey you see my uncle he got in the same bathroom as me when i was four and what happens i actually enjoyed it believe it or not and that's the fucked up thing i liked it and people told me it was wrong but he was really good

So that was about as honest as somebody could answer that question. Do you guys want me to lie?

I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So, okay. I love that answer. You, what does that balance look like with your, your personal relationships, your business? Like, is there anything like that, that you see yourself like, okay, I'm going to reach a point where it's like, eh, I'm good. I've, I've presented that physique and then maybe I'm going to cruise or like, how does that all work?

Like, how's the balance of relationships, family, business work with this obsessive? I'm going to go become a monster still.

I can't tell. What drugs are you talking about? Are these myostatin inhibiting drugs? Correct.

The motivation behind this has got to be the GLP-1s because those are blockbusters. They're changing. They're shifting culture. Yeah, the motivation before was for things like muscular dystrophy and muscle wasting disease, which is a big deal, but it's not that big of a deal from a market perspective like the obesity.

So we're basically going to reach the exercise in a pill mythology that people will bring up with those combinations. Are there any –

downsides to myostatin inhibiting drugs and because you're not working out you're not getting fit you're just building a bunch of muscle do you still get a lot of the same effects uh insulin sensitizing the yes okay but but are there any downsides why is myostatin exists in the first place like you know one of those like it's natural therefore it's good type of deal are they seeing any negatives

Okay, so I want to circle back. I'll circle back to GLP-1s in just a second. But you brought something up that I'd like to touch on because there's a bit of a debate in the fitness space around reverse dieting or strength training for fat loss. We can see a metabolic boost type of deal. Now, we trained people for decades. I've reverse dieted people. I've used strength training.

For me, it's always been the most effective way to get fat loss for the average person for multiple reasons. But what are your thoughts on reverse dieting? What are your thoughts on being able to impact your metabolism in a positive way through building muscle or the strength training process? What's your opinion on all that? I mean, it has –

What about the metabolic boost and what the research – I'm familiar with what the research says. And when they compare a pound of muscle to a pound of fat and calories per day, it's very minimal in the research. But in my experience – And tons and tons of times I've had a client. She came in. She reports eating 1,400 calories. I reverse diet her. I build only probably five, six pounds of muscle.

But for that size of a girl, that's a decent amount of muscle. And now she's eating 2,600 calories and not putting on any body fat and staying lean or getting leaner. And it doesn't math. It doesn't add up to what the studies say. So do you think there's something more going on? What's the answer to that?

There's got to be something to be said, too, though, about, okay, now that they're exercising, they built muscle. Okay, what it takes to maintain that muscle is more activity, more movement, more volume. You know this. When you're feeling good, you're healthier, you're just more active throughout the day. So there's probably a kind of three different things happening there.

And there's also, you know, if they become healthier, hormones can oftentimes change. Hormones can affect fat storage, muscle gain. And I do think the human metabolism is super complex. You know this, Mike. And the data does show that your metabolism or energy expenditure with the same lean body mass, there's a range there. Your body can decide to become more or less –

efficient which i think that explains the people who because you get competitors or people who chronically train chronically track like orthorexics and they're just over dieted over trained and those people i've seen some radical transformations in their metabolism but those are pretty extreme examples and i think the metabolism is a little bit more mysterious uh in those particular cases but i think it has to do with those those three things um

By the way, what I appreciate about you, Mike, is that you're speaking from a combination of education and experience. I can tell you've trained people. I can also tell you've competed as a bodybuilder.

And I can also tell you you're educated because sometimes what happens in the social media space with the science crowd that has never trained anybody, has never competed, is they just stick to the data and the science, which doesn't explain a lot of the experience, which I think will eventually.

I think that eventually the science will catch up to what bodybuilders have been expressing and what coaches and trainers have seen with their clients. I don't think the data supports... reverse dieting, uh, in speeding up quote unquote, the metabolism as much as what bodybuilders and coaches have seen.

I think that that's why you get the pushback as we see on one end with the data doesn't yet support, but I think the data will eventually catch up.

Showing 21–40 of 76 · page 2 of 4