Miranda Sawyer

Okay.

Welcome, John.

Look, your first book, Kill Your Friends, which came out in 2008, is generally described as an American psycho version of your years in A&R.

So I feel like we should talk about your years in A&R.

Previous to your baptism of fire in A&R, you were in an indie band.

How would you describe your indie band?

And what was the name of your band?

And what did you feel like you learnt from that experience?

And you did, basically you did an English literature degree and then you went to A&R.

But how did you manage to do that?

Because I always think, you know, I mean, it's a terrible thing to say to young people these days, but actually quite often, like I got my job, I can't really believe how I got my job.

You know, I entered an advert, but then they happened to like me.

And it's like, that doesn't really seem to happen these days.

How did you get your job in A&R?

You can swear on this podcast, don't worry not.

And what is a product manager job?

Okay, yeah.

So you put it all together so that the CD looks nice or the vinyl looks nice and all the spelling is correct.

Yeah.

Yeah, Goldie is like, he is who he is.