Miranda Sawyer

Don't make me fucking laugh.

What they are is ambitious.

This is where the big money is.

Fuck talent.

Forget rock and roll.

If you just turned the other way out of the schoolyard, Bono could have been a very successful CEO of a huge armaments manufacturer.

Which is really funny, but what you're saying is, like, these people have got a rocket up their bum and they're going to succeed, whatever they do.

Yes, definitely.

And you became friends with James Dean Bradfield, didn't you?

Oh, we did?

Yeah, because you lived close to him.

There's a really sweet quote that I found in an interview where you said it became a bit like Seinfeld and you would just be like... You became friends and you would, like, just burst into each other's house.

You are indeed.

So you, like...

One of the other factors about knocking around with someone like James Dean Bradfield.

James Dean Bradfield, when he lived in London, was out a lot.

I think more than people perhaps realise because he's, I think, still naturally quite shy.

But he was out a lot and he was very convivial.

He drank a lot and he was in all the right places, wasn't he, really?

Yeah, exactly as you'll do.