Miranda Sawyer

And there's this whole other group of people around, but they're the hardcore, right?

And how would you describe each character?

That's played by Alison Hannigan.

And she has a cute red haircut.

And that's played by Nicholas Brandon and it's basically Joss Whedon.

That's just boys.

Yeah.

Boys from the 90s age less well.

It's so true.

Yeah, yeah.

And she's played by Charisma Carpenter.

Exactly that.

Because one of the things that Josh Whedon said when he was thinking about it, I mean, I think I do think sometimes when people talk about this,

when writers talk about their scripts and stuff like that, they kind of post-rationalise it.

You know, in the end you're trying to write an entertaining show.

But he said, look, we are all all these people.

Like he didn't want it to be divided, which is so often the case in American shows about schools that, you know, you're a nerd or a jock.

You're a geek or you can hit a ball.

You know, like actually most people and most teenagers are all of these things.

So the idea is within that group you can –