Mo Gawdat

I...

I genuinely believe most, I mean, here, I genuinely believe it's going to be very difficult to make that change.

I genuinely believe that it's going to be, that when the challenges of an AI dystopia hits us, we're not going to be ready.

But I can't stop talking about it, Stephen.

Do you understand where I stand with this?

I just am hoping and I tried so hard.

I spoke to the leadership.

Then I spoke like one of the things that my Atlantic productions who helped me with the film helped, you know, did for me, which I have to say.

Completely.

I am very appreciative of this.

As you know, through our conversations, through the last few years, that I tended to, at a point in time, lose hope in the leadership and basically try to influence the public for ethical AI.

OK, and my conversation was that the leadership at the time was the technical leadership and that everyone was so caught up in the arms race that I wanted to teach the public to help us build ethical AI.

And I continue to focus on the public, every one of us.

But suddenly Atlantic goes, no, no, hold on.

We should probably get you to meet the political leaders everywhere in the world and hopefully give them a message that says, hey, you know what?

You may actually make a difference if you prioritize AI differently.

Do I believe this will happen?

Sadly, no.

But does that mean I should stop trying?

I cannot stop trying.