Mo Gawdat

Yeah.

So what are you saying?

We lie down and wait?

That's why we keep talking about it.

And that's why I keep spending 14 hours a day trying to tell the world because some genius somewhere is going to find an answer.

But the way it's going...

Correct.

We need to be able to vote with our usage, right?

So I think one of the biggest movements in AI since we started was the idea that so many people switched away from ChatGPT when they approved that their model can target people.

So many people I know at least said... Target people?

When Anthropic refused to... Do you think people switched?

I think many have.

I think ones that are aware did.

And I think they did because the cost of switching is really... I mean, honestly, Anthropic is better, if you think about it.

Yeah, but the idea is if people don't switch for those ethical reasons...

So, you know, every one of my books has this dedication at the beginning.

It used to be the gravity of the battle means nothing to those at peace when I wrote in memory of Ali at the beginning.

My next book, Alive, do you remember a song called the... They were called the Manic Street Preachers.

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

I genuinely believe that what the world needs to wake up to is if you tolerate this, then your children will be next.