Mo Gawdat

If you continue to resign...

if you continue to say, I'm not going to try, this world is going to change in a way that is completely not in your favor.

Try what?

Try to stand up and say something needs to change.

What needs to change is governments need to serve their people, not their interests, and corporates need to work for the benefit of their societies before their shareholders.

This run that we had with capitalism so far has benefited the world tremendously.

Because you're an older bureaucracy that is burdened down by so much barriers in the process of building anything.

Right.

Because the US economy in the past welcomed people like me to go and live in California and build amazing shit.

Right.

That is no longer the case.

So who is going to win?

In my view, it's definitely China.

And by the way, you asked for the middle class.

So China made decisions recently that forced businesses not to lay people off in replacement to be replacing them with AI.

Would the West do that?

The capitalist West would never do that.

We don't know the answer.

I don't know the answer.

And your conundrum in that is that you're assuming that entrepreneurship by definition is malicious.