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The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

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Yes, make it. Perfect. Hey, Alex. Hello. Thank you for the content you create. My name is Mohamed Fatah. I'm the founder of Elfen. What? I'm the founder of Elfen. Elfen? Yeah. Okay. So basically, we sell tools to creators how to make more money. And we also simplify how brands collaborate with creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

684.915

So software and agency tools. So we have a music label, a creator agency for big creators, and then a platform as well. So I'm coming to that just in a bit. I know the focus topic. We made around 4.3 million last year. And basically my goal is try to get to a hundred million.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

704.283

1 million for the creator agency, 1.3 million for the music label. And then the rest is on the brand side.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

717.405

But basically what I've been doing is that I realized the disruption of AI that's kind of coming in.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

722.148

I also saw the scalability of what we were doing because I've been in the YouTube space for a while. So a lot of these services aren't going to be scaling as much. So in the past two years, I've been taking that profit and putting it into a tech platform. Basically, it's like a creator store where you can sell your services, digital products, but also items that you love.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

739.182

So the skincare that you use, the hair cream, the shoes, and you earn a commission. And we use all of that data to make it easier for brands to know what creators to work with. Because right now in influencer marketing, it's like a spray method, right? I'm going to pay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

752.032

I have no idea how much conversion they're going to actually get me, but our integration shows you for a thousand clicks, they get you these number of visitors and then they end up buying. My challenge here right now is that I'm trying to scale that business. But my business model is we make money when you make money. So on the brand side, we get a 15% commission or a margin on all the spend.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

771.325

And on the creator side, we get around 8% from whatever they make with their fans by selling these digital products and courses or affiliate links. My issue here is I got 40,000 creators, but only 1,000 are making money. And I've been kind of struggling between going on a SaaS model to be able to scale.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

787.777

Because when I do any social marketing, we get a creator that comes on board, but they don't make money right away. And the longer it takes you to recoup your ad spend is not usually a good metric for scalability. So I'm kind of pivoting. Should I go into a SaaS model? Where whatever I make from the creator, I'll just be like, hey, just pay me that price and I take 0% from you.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

809.98

And then I just charge the brands the commission to collaborate with those creators. This way I can scale the business in a much faster. Say the last part again. So instead of me making percentages from creators. Yeah. I provide them the same tools that a lot of them make money. And I keep 0%.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

826.219

But then let's say they have to pay like 20 bucks a month.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

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But then I still make my money on the upside on the brand side by connecting them with these creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

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Because right now, I have 40,000 creators who signed up, but I'm really making money off 1,000.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

917.266

So I'm still thinking of a free tier and a paid tier with some minor benefits. But then if you really want to make money, you got to end up paying subscriptions.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

931.821

Just the path of least resistance to getting to 100 million.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

964.667

Perfect. Thank you. You just validated my thoughts. Oh, good. I just want to make sure I'm thinking the right way.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Make Your Offer So Good They Feel Dumb Saying No | Ep 884

991.937

Perfect. Thank you.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

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And I've been kind of struggling between going on a SaaS model to be able to scale because when I do any social marketing, we get a creator that comes on board, but they don't make money right away. So it's not like, you know, the longer it takes you to recoup your ad spend is not usually a good metric for scalability. So I'm kind of pivoting. Should I go into a SaaS model?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1028.874

where whatever I make from the creator, I'll just be like, hey, just pay me that price and I take 0% from you. And then I just charge the brands the commission to collaborate with those creators. This way I can scale the business in a much faster... Say the last part again.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1043.932

So instead of me making percentages from creators, I provide them the same tools that a lot of them make money, and I keep 0%.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

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But then let's say they have to pay like 20 bucks a month.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1054.377

But then I still make my money on the upside on the brand side by connecting them with these creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1064.718

Because right now, I have 40,000 creators who signed up, but I'm really making money off 1,000.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1150.779

So I'm still thinking of a free tier and a paid tier with some minor benefits, but then if you really want to make money, you got to end up paying a subscription.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1164.191

Just the path of least resistance to getting to 100 mil.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1184.395

What do you mean by that?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

1201.459

Perfect, thank you. You just validated my thoughts, so thank you. Oh good, I'm glad. Just wanted to make sure I'm thinking the right way.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

891.244

Hello. Thank you for the content you create. My name is Mohamed Fatah. I'm the founder of Elfan.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

896.308

I'm the founder of Elfan. Elfan? Yeah. Okay. So basically we sell tools to creators to help them make more money. And we also simplify how brands collaborate with creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

906.655

So software and agency tools. So we have a music label, a creator agency for big creators, and then a platform as well. So I'm coming to that just in a bit. I know the focus topic. We made around 4.3 million last year. And basically my goal is to try to get to 100 million.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

928.146

One million for the creator agency. 1.3 million for the music label. And then the rest is on the brand side.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

940.919

Exactly, connecting it both. But basically what I've been doing is that I realized the disruption of AI that's kind of coming in. I also saw the scalability of what we were doing because I've been in the YouTube space for a while. So a lot of these services aren't going to be scaling as much. So in the past two years, I've been taking that profit and putting it into a tech platform.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

957.499

Basically, it's like a creator store where you can sell your services, digital products, but also items that you love. So the skincare that you use, the hair cream, the shoes, and you'll earn a commission. And we use all of that data to make it easier for brands to know what creators to work with. Because right now in influencer marketing, it's like a spray method, right? I'm going to pay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

976.608

I have no idea how much conversion they're going to actually get me, but our integration shows you for a thousand clicks, they get you these number of visitors and then they end up buying. My challenge here right now is that I'm trying to scale that business, but my business model is we make money when you make money. So on the brand side, we get a 15% commission or margin on all the spend.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Take The High Leverage Opportunities | Ep 833

996.356

And on the creator side, we get around 8% from whatever they make with their fans by selling these digital products and courses or affiliate links. My issue here is I got 40,000 creators, but only 1,000 are making money, right?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2024.832

Thank you for the content you create. My name is Mohamed Fatah. I'm the founder of Elfan. Okay. So basically, we sell tools to creators to help them make more money. And we also simplify how brands collaborate with creators. Okay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2036.638

So software and agency tools. So we have a music label, a creator agency for big creators, and then a platform as well. So I'm coming to that just in a bit. I know the focus topic. We made around $4.3 million last year, and basically my goal is to try to get to $100 million. What's the split between the three in terms of revenue?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2058.235

$1 million for the creator agency, $1.3 million for the music label, and then the rest is on the brand side. My issue here is I got 40,000 creators, but only 1,000 are making money. And I've been kind of struggling between going on a SaaS model to be able to scale because when I do any social marketing, we get a creator that comes on board, but they don't make money right away.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2081.899

So it's not like the longer it takes you to recoup your ad spend is not usually a good metric for scalability. So I'm kind of pivoting. Should I go into a SaaS model? where whatever I make from the creator, I'll just be like, hey, just pay me that price and I take 0% from you. And then I just charge the brands the commission to collaborate with those creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2101.878

This way I can scale the business in a much faster. Say the last part again. So instead of me making percentages from creators, I provide them the same tools that a lot of them make money, and I keep 0%.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2114.425

But then let's say they have to pay like 20 bucks a month.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2117.186

But then I still make my money on the upside on the brand side by connecting them with these creators.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2123.237

Switch to a subscription, yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2125.119

Because right now I have 40,000 creators who signed up, but I'm really making money off 1,000.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2211.825

So I'm still thinking of a free tier and a paid tier with some minor benefits, but then if you really want to make money, you've got to end up paying a subscription.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2226.79

Just the path of least resistance to getting to 100 mil.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2246.366

What do you mean by that?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2263.424

Perfect. Thank you. You just validated my thoughts.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

2291.889

Perfect. Thank you.