Mohammed Yunus

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Von der Leyen: 'Europe is at a watershed'

I was dazzled when it came. I had no idea that I'll be leading the government and how to make it happen. So that's the zero point, coming in and still waiting to see what needs to be done immediately. First one, of course, the law and order situation, which is a big task. We are coming from a complete disorder and uprising. People get shot. So that's my first phase.

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Von der Leyen: 'Europe is at a watershed'

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And for me, a learning process also. I never ran a government machine. And see how the institutions, the bureaucracy, the government can function. Because everybody you talk to says, oh, he's an agent of this, he's the one who did that. So come at those levels of distrust and kind of trying to see how do you work with people that you don't know anything about.

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Well, better is a relative term to what we're comparing with. If you're comparing with the last year, for example, at the same time, it looks okay. We are not an ideal country, an ideal city that suddenly we made. It's a continuum of the country that we inherited, a country that was running for many, many years.

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So it takes time to install that fear and install that discipline to make things happen. We take the collapsed country into order, into some discipline, some kind of policy, some kind of hope. This is what you're trying to do.

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Are you comparing with the previous one or just the ideal one?

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You're talking about the law and order situation?

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If there's a court, there's a law, there's a police station, they can go and complain, register their complaint. This is the way. You just don't go to a BBC correspondent to complain. You go to the police station to complain and see through whether the law is taking its course.