Molly Webster

And she was like, why can't we have that?

And she met all these different women in their 60s and 70s and 80s that were doing like totally badass stuff.

These are not women who are worried about bones breaking.

Not at all.

And like, well, that's great.

But, you know, as somebody who's maybe not the most physically adventurous person, I also really appreciated some of the other stories she told me about women who were going on quieter but still very meaningful adventures.

And she talked to this kind of amazing woman who learned how to swim in her 60s.

Oh, cool.

And it was very scary for her, but she still pushed herself to do it.

So what she found was, like, not just a bunch of role models for her, but she also found that for a lot of these women...

finding new possibilities for their life, and they kind of had these new capacities for awe and wonder and bravery that they had never tapped into before.

It's like the minute hypothesis is just to flip the script or something, but no script is the script.

Yeah, right, exactly.

Thank you, Heather.

You too, Molly.

Good luck on your... On my driving journey?

Not on the driving journey, the menopause journey.

Oh, yeah, right.

Our menopause journey.

You've got some time.