Monica Lewinsky

I think it was – I think the thing I didn't like about it was the panic around, ooh, I'm sure someone videoed it, which they did, and that feeling of I think I've gotten a lot better at as –

as there are more pieces of me that I've chosen to put out into the world, I feel less impacted by reactions to one thing or another.

Totally.

Right?

If that makes sense.

Absolutely.

And so I think that I'm able to be a little more emotionally elastic that way, which is great.

You know, in the journaling, what's it called, like activity that I chose that you and John led and you had us drawing, closing our eyes and doing the self-portrait, I felt...

Like, I even felt insecure sitting in a circle of people with everybody's eyes closed in my own journal that nobody was going to see what it was.

Totally.

And so that was just a really interesting metaphor of just that feeling of, what am I so afraid of?

And it's usually, I mean, the irony is, I'm sure you've had this experience, I know I have, where it's when you either choose to or it accidentally gets out there, it's when you see the most connection with other people.

Absolutely.

And so it just, it's so weird to me that we end up with that kind of a relationship with ourselves, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You've done that so much in your life.

I mean, from the Life Interrupted column that you started, right, after your first diagnosis and then during COVID, right?

right, creating this online.

It's like one of the largest, right, 200,000 people.