Monica Lewinsky

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, yeah.

And having a seat there is pretty amazing.

Well, I guess you've just always belonged there, John.

I guess, I guess so.

This is skateboarder Tony Hawk.

When you say sort of not paying attention to relationships, what does that look like?

Well, I think it is, in a way, it's actually a gateway drug, right?

So, I mean, I think it is sort of in that.

Right, and it can lead to, as we see with so many well-known people, it can lead to them taking their own lives.

So, I mean, it can have that same consequence.

And lastly, authors Elise Lunin and Courtney Smith.

There's this quote of yours, Elise, that I really connected to for, I think it'll be obvious reasons, but you said, "...reputational harm for women is dangerous, if not deadly.

All you have to say is that a woman is bad, an unreliable friend, a cold mother, a toxic co-worker, a boss, and she's done.

Women will disappear themselves when these assaults on their goodness come."

Yes.

Now, I know some of that you referenced earlier on, but that just felt really resonant for me in my own experiences.

And I think...

You know, what we see.

Oh, everywhere.