Monica Lewinsky

I haven't gone through that yet. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, grief in general, Anderson Cooper has a great podcast on this. But I think that there's such a big, wide spectrum of grief. And it feels like that's close to the top of the list of those things that you wish they taught us when we were younger. I saw this thing on Insta the other day about parallelograms. And it was like,

Yeah. I mean, grief in general, Anderson Cooper has a great podcast on this. But I think that there's such a big, wide spectrum of grief. And it feels like that's close to the top of the list of those things that you wish they taught us when we were younger. I saw this thing on Insta the other day about parallelograms. And it was like,

Yeah, I would have rather have learned about grief, how to move through grief than a fucking parallelogram. So, you know, that never, never became a thing for the rest of my life. So I hadn't experienced a few. I think it was actually in 2016. And I had gone back on medication at that point.

Yeah, I would have rather have learned about grief, how to move through grief than a fucking parallelogram. So, you know, that never, never became a thing for the rest of my life. So I hadn't experienced a few. I think it was actually in 2016. And I had gone back on medication at that point.

and I'd gone, and my therapist is a trauma psychiatrist, and I'd gone in, and I was like, oh, I think I'm depressed, and maybe we need to up my meds, and blah, blah, blah, and talking, and she was like, no, this is just grief. And so I think we don't even learn how to identify that in that way, and I find I've gotten a little better with it. I know a lot of grief that I have experienced

and I'd gone, and my therapist is a trauma psychiatrist, and I'd gone in, and I was like, oh, I think I'm depressed, and maybe we need to up my meds, and blah, blah, blah, and talking, and she was like, no, this is just grief. And so I think we don't even learn how to identify that in that way, and I find I've gotten a little better with it. I know a lot of grief that I have experienced

still carry and move through are sort of around just, not just the things that happened, but also what I lost in connection to that, right? The kinds of things that I didn't experience or go through. And I imagine even though there was a lot more positive things for you, that there were aspects of young adulthood or adolescence that you just didn't get to experience.

still carry and move through are sort of around just, not just the things that happened, but also what I lost in connection to that, right? The kinds of things that I didn't experience or go through. And I imagine even though there was a lot more positive things for you, that there were aspects of young adulthood or adolescence that you just didn't get to experience.

And did that feel like a loss for you or just something you didn't know it, so it... I think it was...

And did that feel like a loss for you or just something you didn't know it, so it... I think it was...

Interesting. I'm like now back thinking about college and how – because I went to graduate school late. That's right. So I was in my early 30s and much older than a lot of the other kids. And I so appreciated being spoon-fed knowledge. Yeah.

Interesting. I'm like now back thinking about college and how – because I went to graduate school late. That's right. So I was in my early 30s and much older than a lot of the other kids. And I so appreciated being spoon-fed knowledge. Yeah.

To have somebody hand you an outline for a lecture and to be given this and to just have your mind blown and constantly, you know, thinking of new things and putting things together. It is – it's such a gift that we don't appreciate at 18. At all.

To have somebody hand you an outline for a lecture and to be given this and to just have your mind blown and constantly, you know, thinking of new things and putting things together. It is – it's such a gift that we don't appreciate at 18. At all.

Well, a gap year like they do in Europe, you know, so it's or several gap years. Yeah.

Well, a gap year like they do in Europe, you know, so it's or several gap years. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I felt more self-conscious about being Monica Lewinsky than being an older student. Yeah, it was a little harder. And I think it was.