Monica Lewinsky

Absolutely.

I'm so curious about

I'm very in awe of how confident you are and how sort of set and strong, not set and strong, that's the wrong way to phrase it, but I just- How much audacity I possess.

Well, maybe in some instances, but I'm just, I'm so curious about, you know, like how you became this, were you like this as a kid?

Did you evolve into this?

Was there a- I changed.

Yeah, absolutely.

Right.

But it's just, it's interesting because I think some of what's coming up for me as I found myself listening and thinking, as one does, about...

This idea of, okay, I think that I'm not like that.

And what I don't know... You were also traumatized in front of the world in your early 20s.

And that's what I was going to say is I don't know if I always... I would have ended up this way whether or not that had happened or if it is a function of having been shunned for such a long time in such a destabilizing way, really, that...

Right.

But how does spite fit into pleasure?

It's interesting.

What's coming up for me is, and I haven't thought about it this way, is this idea of we have spent so much time in maybe the last decade or two with the psychology of the inner child and healing our inner child.

And she's always with me and all the different versions and all the different things.

And I think what you're talking about is

is really interesting at this idea of that other self being this older version of you.

Planning for her, not warding her off.