Monique Bowley

Five years since that divorce, it seems clear that what I've been doing privately is part of something bigger."

a story that somehow belongs to my generation and particularly the women of my generation.

I thought it was so interesting.

Because we were largely unsupervised as teens.

Exactly.

Yeah, porn wasn't everywhere.

You had to seek it out.

You had to find it.

And she says that in a way, the sexual revolution that's happened since then, which has made for a kinder, safer environment, is this wonderful freedom now for Gen Xers who are like, oh my God, in the 90s and noughties, I was dodging all kinds of shit and it's kind of toughened me up.

But now I can just enjoy it.

Well, and also what she's putting forward in this is that we're in an era that's much more friendly for exploring different aspects of your sexuality than we grew up in.

And because we weren't conditioned from the beginnings of our sexuality to only be sort of lit up by porn in the way that the generation after us did, we have a friendlier view of sex in general.

Like we had to dodge the real life risks that your average woman in the world, she talks about, you know, sexual harassment at work and at uni and all those things.

We had to dodge all that.

But we weren't programmed to only be, when I say digitally aroused, I don't mean with fingers, I mean with phones.

And she says that the decline – you know how there's all these headlines all the time about people having less sex than ever.

Gen Zs and millennials are having less sex than ever.

And she says that cohort is supposedly having 30% less sex than they were 20 years ago.

But Generation X's sex has only dropped by 9%.

And it's because we're not –