Mustafa Suleyman

and really just get the chance to be who we want to be instead of growing up in societies that are maybe in the middle of a refugee camp, going through war, in the middle of complete chaos, families that get moved on month after month or year after year and essentially end up being refugees.

You're right.

Who would have thought what the iPhone would have done?

And I think that more than anything, we have to have

so much more empathy and kindness for people who have been through that struggle.

There tends to be a sort of, you know, a demonizing of refugees or migrants as though they're like coming to steal something from our stable worlds.

But in fact, they're actually fleeing insane hardship.

So we have to be way more compassionate and forgiving and kind to those kinds of people.

Thanks for the question.

It's...

Human rights is core to what I believe to be the solution for a peaceful and stable society.

And remember that those people are just like us.

Like our societies could fall apart in the US, in the UK, in Europe, just as their societies happen to be falling apart at this moment in time.

I think your success and my success is probably largely a function of the privilege that we have to live in a society not at war, have access to a great education system, be able to get access to healthcare,

And we have to extend a hand of friendship and love.

And the human rights framework taught me that.

Because I grew up as a pretty strict Muslim.

and really just get the chance to be who we want to be instead of growing up in societies that are maybe in the middle of a refugee camp, going through war, in the middle of complete chaos, families that get moved on month after month or year after year and essentially end up being refugees.

And I realized sort of in my late teens and early 20s that it was too narrow a kind of worldview.

Prioritized being Muslim over being human.