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He says, look, I can take solace in my ignorance.

Yeah, which is very useful to take solace because your ignorance is infinite. There's a lot of place for solace in that.

Yeah, which is very useful to take solace because your ignorance is infinite. There's a lot of place for solace in that.

Yeah, which is very useful to take solace because your ignorance is infinite. There's a lot of place for solace in that.

Yeah. Okay, so let's go back at happiness. So, because... what you could say that the folk understanding of happiness is something like the gratification of a toddler's whim. A toddler's having a tantrum in a store and his mother, defeated, gives him the chocolate bar. And so now the child stops squawking and bitching and being subsumed by negative emotions and maybe smiles.

Yeah. Okay, so let's go back at happiness. So, because... what you could say that the folk understanding of happiness is something like the gratification of a toddler's whim. A toddler's having a tantrum in a store and his mother, defeated, gives him the chocolate bar. And so now the child stops squawking and bitching and being subsumed by negative emotions and maybe smiles.

Yeah. Okay, so let's go back at happiness. So, because... what you could say that the folk understanding of happiness is something like the gratification of a toddler's whim. A toddler's having a tantrum in a store and his mother, defeated, gives him the chocolate bar. And so now the child stops squawking and bitching and being subsumed by negative emotions and maybe smiles.

And so you think, well, that's happiness. Okay, but that's not the kind of happiness that you're describing. That's gratification.

And so you think, well, that's happiness. Okay, but that's not the kind of happiness that you're describing. That's gratification.

And so you think, well, that's happiness. Okay, but that's not the kind of happiness that you're describing. That's gratification.

that okay just gratification and that's a feeling okay so why look if you're hedonistically oriented why not why not be skeptical about your proposition that it's something other than immediate hedonistic gratification that constitutes happiness and certainly epicurus would have been you know and so the whole epicurean tradition of trying to maintain positive feelings as much as possible Yes.

that okay just gratification and that's a feeling okay so why look if you're hedonistically oriented why not why not be skeptical about your proposition that it's something other than immediate hedonistic gratification that constitutes happiness and certainly epicurus would have been you know and so the whole epicurean tradition of trying to maintain positive feelings as much as possible Yes.

that okay just gratification and that's a feeling okay so why look if you're hedonistically oriented why not why not be skeptical about your proposition that it's something other than immediate hedonistic gratification that constitutes happiness and certainly epicurus would have been you know and so the whole epicurean tradition of trying to maintain positive feelings as much as possible Yes.

Well, you also won't be able to withstand suffering when it comes.

Well, you also won't be able to withstand suffering when it comes.

Well, you also won't be able to withstand suffering when it comes.

Yeah, right. You don't need to look for it.

Yeah, right. You don't need to look for it.

Yeah, right. You don't need to look for it.

Okay, so then why conceptualize it exactly as happiness?