Nadia

Oh, God.

Isn't that funny?

You've never done that.

I've never done it because I've just been working all the time.

And so then it was really interesting because I started to enjoy that feeling and feeling sort of a bit

No, but I should be working.

Like I should be really spent.

A lot of guilt around it.

And, you know, like even for the two of us now, we're just learning a little bit to let ourselves have a little bit of time that's,

I mean I think that again is a brilliant message for everybody and it's hard to do and there's going to be a lot of people that can't do it because everyone has a different job and different things going on but I've met so many people where they've got their local choir that they go to on a Wednesday I'm like

not a hobby like you just do it for fun there was something interesting that happened in a therapy session with my husband and i so i've gone on this huge processing thing and i got back and he was like i need i want to do it and he got on the next flight and went and did the same thing and then our wait what do you mean therapy it's like it's like a i call it like development open heart surgery with no pain emotional open heart surgery and um so we did this processing thing

and the facilitator the therapist was doing some couples work with us and I was communicating how overwhelmed and you know feeling like he's not taking his part in the relationship or taking some of the load off me and he couldn't really hear it

And what she said to him, which was so interesting, is, isn't it funny, Casey, that on the processing, when you heard other women say those things, you cried and you felt so much for them.

But when your wife is saying it to you right now, you can't feel her.

And it was like a moment where we both went like, yeah, oh, yeah.

He doesn't see me because all he hears is the nagging.

And then he was like, oh yeah, okay.

And so then, you know, I had to say it again and he had to feel it and feel it.

And ever since that, I feel like he...

gives me he encourages me like why don't you go and exercise or why don't you go and go for a walk you're gonna feel so much better if you do that you know and so he's able to see what i need now and sometimes we get so stuck in stuff that we can't see each other anymore i just want to say thank you so much for you're going to change people's lives this this book