Naima Troutt

So I feel like when you debate that person, win, lose, draw, no matter how the debate goes, you're still reinforcing that belief of like an in-group and an out-group.

And if I'm on the out-group and debating them, they can be like, aha, see, we told you people were going to attack you for these beliefs because they don't get it.

And here this is happening.

So in a way, I feel like by debating him, you're only reinforcing his power and hold among the members of his little group.

I wouldn't call it a cult.

I don't think it's a cult.

I mean, they don't even meet in person.

I don't think you can be an online cult.

I wouldn't call it a cult.

I would call it a hate group, but I think that psychologically there are some parallels.

Sleepy.

Sleepy, tired.

Don't say it like that.

For, no, Jubilees start at like 8.

It's like four to five hours, yeah.

Really?

Especially when it's a surrounded, because a lot of it's just like watching other people debate.

Oh, with Andrew Wilson?

Oh, no, with Parker.

Yeah.