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Naima & Zina: AI Replacing Jobs, Wealth Collapse & DEI Wipeout. America Is Not Ready | DSH #1663
11 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: How do debates empower extremists?
So I feel like when you debate that person, win, lose, draw, no matter how the debate goes, you're still reinforcing that belief of like an in-group and an out-group. And if I'm on the out-group and debating them, they can be like, aha, see, we told you people were going to attack you for these beliefs because they don't get it. And here this is happening.
So in a way, I feel like by debating him, you're only reinforcing his power and hold among the members of his little group.
So would you label him his following a cult?
Chapter 2: What parallels exist between hate groups and cult psychology?
I wouldn't call it a cult. I don't think it's a cult. I mean, they don't even meet in person. I don't think you can be an online cult. I wouldn't call it a cult. I would call it a hate group, but I think that psychologically there are some parallels.
All right, guys.
Chapter 3: Why does debate culture reinforce radical beliefs?
First episode at Spotify Studios in LA. Let's get it. Got the ladies here today. Returning guests and new guests. What's going on today, ladies?
Yes. Hi. Hey.
Chapter 4: What happens behind the scenes with online creators?
How's everyone been feeling? You guys have been doing a lot of Jubilee debates and making roundabouts.
Sleepy. Sleepy, tired.
It is early, guys. It's like 10 a.m.
Don't say it like that.
Probably the earliest you guys have filmed, right?
For, no, Jubilees start at like 8.
What? Why so early? Is it a full day thing when you're on set?
It's like four to five hours, yeah.
Jeez.
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Chapter 5: How is the right-wing ecosystem fracturing post-Trump?
Honestly, it goes by faster than you think. It does.
Really? Especially when it's a surrounded, because a lot of it's just like watching other people debate.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel that.
Chapter 6: What are the dangers of Nick Fuentes' influence on youth?
I just saw your two-on-two debate.
With who?
Oh, with Andrew Wilson?
Was it? No, no, it wasn't that one.
Oh, no, with Parker.
Parker and you versus my friend CJ.
Yeah.
And I didn't know the other kids.
I actually did not hate CJ.
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Chapter 7: How is AI reshaping jobs and economic opportunities?
I think the part that messed me up was in the beginning. He was like, people who are food insecure just need to work harder.
Yeah.
And I was like, well, that's not very compassionate now. It's kind of hard to work hard when you're starving.
He means well. Shout out to CJ, man. He means well. Have you debated him or no?
I do not know CJ, but I did see some of that debate.
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Chapter 8: What are the realities of protests and police escalation?
I know it was definitely interesting. I mean, definitely a range of ideas.
Towards the end, I appreciated when he was like, there are issues with the Republican health care plan because we can't just get rid of a premium tax credit without replacing it with a real solid plan, which I appreciated him being able to actually acknowledge that the Republicans do need to form a better, more thoughtful and understood plan.
Yeah. So what are you guys focusing on this year or rest of this year, next year? I know you're starting a podcast. I don't know if that's been announced yet, but.
i guess this is this is the breaking news yes let's go so you're stepping away from the debate scene and going in the podcast route now i mean from what i've the debate scene is so interesting like the side of you that you get there is just it's all like grunt i don't know i don't know i just feel like it's raw right it's like it's raw right it's
That sounded wrong.
I mean, it's just in the sense that it's a very... Like, the prep work that you do for a debate is hours and hours and hours. And then the debate itself, you have to talk to people who, under any other circumstances, you would never want to talk to. Right. So it gets to be somewhat fatiguing, like, back to back to back to back.
And it's also not, like, the most sustainable, like, way to, I feel like, have an online presence because you have to travel. Like, you just went, like, across the country to do a debate.
Wow.
I went to Tennessee.
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