Naima Troutt

handled his presidency, especially this term.

The tariffs, everything.

I mean, the going back and forth on the tariffs.

Like, if I was a conservative, I'd be pissed.

He's making you guys look weak as a party.

The issue is his beliefs.

And I think that Charlie Kirk has left essentially like a power vacuum on the right.

And now everyone's kind of trying to fight to take his spot, essentially.

And I think that Nick Fuentes is vying for it.

But I think the issue with him is just that his beliefs are... I mean, some of the statements he's made, it's just insane.

Like, he was...

actively inciting violence when it came to encouraging January 6th protesters on the day like the prolific use of the n-word his you know reverence for Hitler like it's just it's too far you know it's not something that is going to be ever I think widely accepted on just a moral basis so now the right has to decide it's like if you are going to allow Nick Fuentes to be a prominent figure in your party and

you're essentially saying that what he's saying is morally admissible permissible you know yeah and you know you can't really say that and then be like but we're pro-life except if you're jewish you know like that's not going to really work right would either of you debate him because i know you were offered by it in ross in 2024 um now he's a lot bigger so what do you guys think about potentially going head-to-head with nick fuentes i mean let's just we just got to think about like

I think the way I think about it, because I honestly, in middle school and high school, I was obsessed with cults.

Oh, yeah.

Not in a way that I wanted to join, in a sociological study kind of way.

And as I've learned more about hate groups and white supremacy...

As an adult, I've noticed that psychologically cults and hate groups have a lot of similar kind of functionalities in getting people to believe these very kind of insane ideologies and to put the loyalty to this ideology above their loyalty to other people.

essentially and one of the ways that they both cults and hate groups kind of do this is through like socially isolating people of being like nobody else understands you everyone else is trying to attack you because they don't get it and we have the higher truth and only our little insular group possesses that so i feel like when you debate that person win lose draw no matter how the debate goes you're still reinforcing that belief of like an in-group and an out-group

And if I on the out group and debating them, they can be like, aha, see, we told you people were going to attack you for these beliefs because they don't get it.