Nancy Grace

Susanna, thank you for being with us.

Day one, you look at them.

Day two, you get their DNA.

It's not hard.

I stood there, warrant in hand, and said, I'm getting your DNA.

Now, I did not perform the test because that would make me a witness at trial, but I stood there and watched it, watched it on many occasions.

I watched it get put in a paper bag, sealed, signature written on it, and taken to the crime lab.

How do you do it?

How do you get the HVAC worker's DNA in the least intrusive manner possible?

So roofers, electricians, HVAC workers, get in line.

You're getting a buckle swab.

It's really not hard.

Just like Susanna Ryan's telling you, it's like a long Q-tip.

And they just stick it in your mouth and swirl it around.

They don't let you do it in a forensic buckle swab like you would take your own COVID test by sticking the Q-tip up your nose.

No, they do it to make sure it's an accurate test.

Very easy.

In the time we've talked about it, we could have done maybe three or four buckle swabs.

Now, next.

A Pima County Sheriff's deputy arrested for kidnap of a female in this jurisdiction?