Nancy Pelosi

Because by then, somebody will be the nominee for the party. They will then take control of the California Democratic Party because they will be able to choose who are the delegates to the convention, all of that. That's how it worked in those days. So there was a—this may be more than you ever want to know, but as I say to people, be ready. You never know.

So in Maryland, they had something that the Secretary of State, the law, said that if anybody is a candidate in any state— they would be on the Maryland ballot. So I said to Leo, Leo, tell the governor... Get on the ballot. Stay on the ballot in Maryland. Right. Stay on the ballot and we can win this. I mean, I was a housewife. But I said, you know, my brother had recently been mayor.

So in Maryland, they had something that the Secretary of State, the law, said that if anybody is a candidate in any state— they would be on the Maryland ballot. So I said to Leo, Leo, tell the governor... Get on the ballot. Stay on the ballot in Maryland. Right. Stay on the ballot and we can win this. I mean, I was a housewife. But I said, you know, my brother had recently been mayor.

My friend was a county executive there, Ted Venatoulis, my brother, Thomas Del San. We had... Grassroots. You have to have the grassroots organized. We had the grassroots organized. He's the star. I mean, he was so fabulous. He was middle 30s. He was like 36. Oh, my God. Almost a Jesuit priest, too, by the way. All that. And when he came to Maryland, he was spectacular. He was? Spectacular.

My friend was a county executive there, Ted Venatoulis, my brother, Thomas Del San. We had... Grassroots. You have to have the grassroots organized. We had the grassroots organized. He's the star. I mean, he was so fabulous. He was middle 30s. He was like 36. Oh, my God. Almost a Jesuit priest, too, by the way. All that. And when he came to Maryland, he was spectacular. He was? Spectacular.

He was drawing crowds. We were breaking down walls of hotels and everything to the street. The crowds were turning out for Jerry. Wow. And we won Maryland. Mm-hmm. And when we went back to California, people were like, what? How did that happen? And he said, at this big welcoming event, Nancy Pelosi was the political director of my Maryland campaign. Which is true. Which was true.

He was drawing crowds. We were breaking down walls of hotels and everything to the street. The crowds were turning out for Jerry. Wow. And we won Maryland. Mm-hmm. And when we went back to California, people were like, what? How did that happen? And he said, at this big welcoming event, Nancy Pelosi was the political director of my Maryland campaign. Which is true. Which was true.

But he never usually would. Yes.

But he never usually would. Yes.

And so one thing, then they were like, you have to be chair of the party here. You have to do this. So one thing led to another. So when I became the whip, which was the race that made the difference, I just said, I'm going forward into the leadership role. And people said, men said, who said she could run? I was like, please light my fire, why don't you? Yes, I said I could run, okay?

And so one thing, then they were like, you have to be chair of the party here. You have to do this. So one thing led to another. So when I became the whip, which was the race that made the difference, I just said, I'm going forward into the leadership role. And people said, men said, who said she could run? I was like, please light my fire, why don't you? Yes, I said I could run, okay?

So in any case, Jerry came for my swearing. It was a big deal. A woman was being sworn in as whip the first time, anything like that. He said, I made this happen. No, I made you happen. I fit in. Oh, God. So anyway, you just never know in the course of events how some place, your talent, your experience, your whatever it is, just takes off.

So in any case, Jerry came for my swearing. It was a big deal. A woman was being sworn in as whip the first time, anything like that. He said, I made this happen. No, I made you happen. I fit in. Oh, God. So anyway, you just never know in the course of events how some place, your talent, your experience, your whatever it is, just takes off.

Yes. I will answer the way I say everything. Public sentiment is everything. The public has to be—a public sentiment to prevail, people have to know. And they have to know where this vitriol is coming from. People say to me, oh, you're in a gridlock. I say, we're not in a gridlock. We're in obstruction. This isn't mutual disagreement here. This is initiated by them. Yeah, I agree.

Yes. I will answer the way I say everything. Public sentiment is everything. The public has to be—a public sentiment to prevail, people have to know. And they have to know where this vitriol is coming from. People say to me, oh, you're in a gridlock. I say, we're not in a gridlock. We're in obstruction. This isn't mutual disagreement here. This is initiated by them. Yeah, I agree.

For years, I had been the target, dressed like a devil, horns, cloven feet— What they did to Hillary Clinton in the 90s when she was first lady and the Clinton, they have used this because they are bankrupt of ideas and they have to take other people down. Right. So I make no apology for saying this is not mutual. It is instigated by them, and that's who they are and where they are.

For years, I had been the target, dressed like a devil, horns, cloven feet— What they did to Hillary Clinton in the 90s when she was first lady and the Clinton, they have used this because they are bankrupt of ideas and they have to take other people down. Right. So I make no apology for saying this is not mutual. It is instigated by them, and that's who they are and where they are.

When my husband was attacked, the sanctity of our home was violated, his personal safety was violated. to the point of we don't even know if he's going to survive, they laughed. They told jokes on their websites. Believe me, I heard it. The governor of Virginia, the Republican governor, Elon Musk, all of them, they thought that was really funny. Right.

When my husband was attacked, the sanctity of our home was violated, his personal safety was violated. to the point of we don't even know if he's going to survive, they laughed. They told jokes on their websites. Believe me, I heard it. The governor of Virginia, the Republican governor, Elon Musk, all of them, they thought that was really funny. Right.

I mean, really, how much more do people have to know? So we don't have shared values when it comes to – to understanding the responsibility. We want people to have trust in government. We want them to be involved in it. We don't want them to see all that mess and think, oh, I can't wait to be a part of that.