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Nancy Youssef

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Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

Well, it's an interesting question because this started at 2.30 in the morning in terms of presidential statements, which he made from a Truth Social video, that this was for the Iranian people.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And I think there were a lot of Iranian people who welcomed it and even still welcomed it because there was such profound frustration with the regime.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

We had seen massive protests in the run-up to this in December and January.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

and real threats to the durability of the regime.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

But over time, not only through the strikes, but through the rhetoric we heard from the US, I think we saw an administration that conflated the regime and the people.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And we use this phrase sort of hearts and minds, and maybe people are quick to dismiss it.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

But if the objective was to get the Iranian people to rise up and to challenge the government, it's very hard to get that kind of mobilization when you're also attacking them.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

making what they saw as derogatory comments about their religion on Easter Sunday and all these things.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And so I think for some Iranians, we heard about real splits within the diaspora.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

But internally, I think there was a real struggle between those who both found themselves stuck with a regime that they didn't want and a war that was conducted in a way that they didn't want.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

Can I jump in, Adam?

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

Because Tom made so many great points, and I want to just build on a couple of them.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

The firings, we've had a lot of generals and admirals fired, including the head of the army during this conflict.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

Now, usually when a general admiral is fired during wars for the conduct of the war, that didn't appear to be the case in this instance.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

This was personal animosity, a secretary who was micromanaging personnel decisions in the army, looking to put his own stamp on that service.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And while this was largely a war from the air and sea, the army had an important role.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

The air defenses that you heard about, the Patriots and the Thads, those are army operated system.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

Restocking the munitions that were used for them, it falls on the army chief of staff and he was fired during this conflict.

Radio Atlantic
Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran

And so I think that's important to note, just the pace at which these personnel changes were happening.