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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

The Pando Problem.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Improving intuitive understanding directly.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

The model for why this is worth trying is that I believe we are more bottlenecked by people having good intuitions guiding their research than, for example, by the ability of people to code and run evals.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Quite a few ideas in AI safety implicitly use assumptions about individuality that ultimately derive from human experience.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

When we talk about AI scheming, alignment faking or goal preservation, we imply there is something scheming or alignment faking or wanting to preserve its goals or escape the data center.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

If the system in question were human, it would be quite clear what that individual system is.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

When you read about Reinhold Messner reaching the summit of Everest, you would be curious about the climb, but you would not ask if it was his body there, or his mind, or his motivations to climb like that spirit of mountaineering or some combination thereof.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

In humans, all the answers are so strongly correlated that it does not make sense to ask.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

But as we'll see, these human-centric assumptions often don't really fit the reality of AI systems.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

We will start looking at a different domain.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Biology.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Then, we'll look at AI systems, drawing on concepts from the three-layer model of LLM psychology.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

At the end, we'll see how confusions about AI individuality can have significant safety implications.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Heading Individuality in biology Individuality, even in relatively simple biological systems, turns out to be complex.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Consider the quaking aspen, Populus tremuloids.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Pando, a famous aspen clone in Utah, is a grove of around 47,000 trees, all genetically identical, all growing from a single massive underground root system.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

In a sense, each tree is an individual.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

Try chopping one down and the others won't fall.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

But in another sense, Pando is one individual, by some estimates the largest single organism on Earth, weighing in at 6,600 tons.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“The Pando Problem: Rethinking AI Individuality” by Jan_Kulveit

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