Nasser Hussain

absolutely first of all it was an outstanding bowling performance from Australia today I know we'll get into the nitty gritty of that but

England's top order, as you say, crumbled again either side of lunch.

They lost three quick wickets then root just after lunch.

And then it was left to Stokes really to be his defiant best.

But it was defiant and defensive as he had to be.

More than four hours of sweat and toil and

We've all been there.

I was looking at him for that last drinks break tonight and he's on one knee, taking water on board, towel on his head to try and cool him down.

He's got cramp because of the heat of the day and he's trying to do it alone with not much support.

So it's a kind of path that a few England captains have trodden down the years here in Australia.

He arrived here in the country saying he wanted to

join the select band of, you know, Ashes winning captains, that's looking increasingly further away.

Do you think, first of all, it was odd that Tong didn't get the nod over Kars at the start of the day?

I mean, you know, the mop or whatever his nickname is, rabbit pie, the mop, you know, the guy who cleans up the tail, who had been better than Kars yesterday.

So I thought that was curious.

And then obviously the moment, which, you know,

Captains always have those moments, don't they?

But it was very visible right at the start of the day because England needed to take those two quick wickets.

But they came out very lacklustre.

There must have been, what, five boundaries in the first two or three overs?