Nat Towsen

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American Power · How Energy Became the World's Most Powerful Weapon · 12 Aug 2026 podcast

Like if you can take one nuclear reaction.

reactor offline, obviously you can take a lot of energy offline, but there are still pipelines, there are still energy, there's still energy uh grid work that can be disrupted one way or another.

So I'm curious what you think, Matt, about you know, would that am I being optimistic to assume that reducing our uh uh dependency on oil would also be a national security uh boost as well?

Yeah, I think that's that's a really good point.

I I would like

I want to add a little bit to what you said about the democratic strategy there because I I think they've been terrible on on the climate and renewables for in many ways, and I think uh in many ways get uh too much credit f just due to being the default less bad party in that regard.

And um

Not saying democratic administrations haven't done good things, but I think the messaging around climate change, which we called global warming at the time, right, uh in say the nineteen nineties, was very

Okay, to some degree there was a belief that if you told people there was a global threat that the world would band together and solve it, we were this was the wheel we are the world era.

There was a little there was a lot of economic prosperity and also like this sort of belief of like, hey, we're all in this together, maybe we really can make a change.

And I think that was obviously uh not true.

But

I think that the strategic error that I I would take a bigger qualm with just then

I th I I don't I don't know.

I I wasn't an adult in nineteen ninety one.

I can't decide if that optimism was completely foolish.

But what I think when I look at the way that we talked about

global warming as I and the environment as I was growing up is there was this huge, and this was from liberals, there was this huge focus on individual responsibility, right?

Like global warming is real and that's why you need to recycle.

And like ultimately we were sold a deeply false bill of goods

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