Nat Towson

Maybe they aren't.

Maybe they don't think about it that way.

The other thing I was going to say that I think is interesting.

is that this schism existed in the Trump administration from practically day one, right?

Like his cabinet was split between the more America first types and the global business types.

But I don't think it was stressed in the same way.

Quite frankly, we didn't have, you know, Trump wasn't invading, you know, he was very anti-military, very, very anti-war, not necessarily in rhetoric, but, you know, he was very reticent to take military action in the first term.

So I think, you know, the presence of Israel and obviously this is all post October 7th and the I wouldn't say the crisis started there, but it became front and center in the media after October 7th.

I think that's kind of forced the hand of the schism between the globalists and the anti globalists.

And I totally agree with you that Vance is too confident.

I mean, just look at the previous Trump administration.

They're all the entire cabinet's gone, not just from the cabinet, like they're gone from politics.

Like a lot of these people have completely left the public eye.

I mean, obviously, Mike Pence, but J.D.

Vance, I mean, whatever whatever chance he has at capturing the moment, I feel like he'll be chewed up by the time is even, you know, the beginning of election cycle.

Oh, you hope he's the nominee.

Yeah.

Damage control every day.

I think that's a realistic prediction.

I just also think Vance has not accepted to himself yet that he's not running.