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Like, is there any...

I don't, you know, obviously there's no there's no good conflict, but obviously some of these conflicts need to happen.

And Ukraine has remarkably defended itself against this massive, overwhelming, occupying force, which, you know, in theory, I very much support.

And I don't want it.

I don't want civilians on either side to die.

They're still people.

But is this innovation possible?

leading us to a style of warfare that might not require so much civilian casualties or, you know, I mean, like you said, Russia is still inflicting terror no matter what.

But how is this change that the timbre and style of warfare or and how do you predict it will continue to do so?

It's all you Preston.

No one's going to hold you to these predictions, but in your, in your opinion, how is this progress?

Because like you said, it's like an arms race, not an arms race.

I mean, it is literally, but also like it is a constant race of innovation.

So like what direction is that?

Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the fear.

And I don't mean to deflate the excitement about the technology, but I'm curious how that frames your opinion on the culture of war.

And I do think that just to jump in also, that is exacerbated by the drone culture that you're describing.

So I'm curious, Preston, if you think that that disconnect is even greater now.

Sorry, I just want to add to Chad's question.

So I'm curious, again, coming from a bit of a civilian perspective, right?