Nat Towson

And they are they you know, it's like why you can't get through to them about Palestine, where it's like the only young people they know are people who've wanted to work for the Democratic Party since birth.

And the only people they're listening to are operatives and strategists who work for think tanks.

And it's like they don't they're not used to hearing you say things like

Well, specifically because they've accepted a set of foregone conclusions, such as we need the oil industry, such as, you know, these fluctuations in the market are OK as long as the corporations are turning a profit.

And

when you just kind of accept that as the flatline of your reasoning, or not accept it, but when all of the reasoning that you're hearing has pre-accepted these foregone conclusions that are not necessarily true, but they are part of this ideology, you don't even think

That people think about that.

And, you know, obviously, I think these people need to be more in touch, but it's so good that you're able to speak to them clear headedly, because I do think that within the Democratic Party, within the DNC, intentionally or otherwise, they end up repeating these archaic points that don't really represent the will of the people who they work for.

That's the problem.

You kind of have to keep it around because if you get something, they'll hold it against you when you try to apply.

I mean, I know we have no preexisting condition, but like, realistically speaking, you have to have that insurance because.

I mean, in some cases you need it for employment also.

I mean, sometimes it's not an option.

Well, we've also means-tested all of these, like the SNAP programs, food stamps, all these things have been put to the point where, okay, so it's means-tested, which means only if you're really, really qualified for it, you need it.

Which means that if you look at how...

essentially how poor you have to be, let's say in New York State where I live, in order to qualify for food stamps, for like SNAP benefits, food stamps, that's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

In order to qualify for that, for housing assistance, NYCHA housing, for all these different fair fares, so you can get a MetroCard for cheaper, ride the subway, all these assistance programs we have in place for New Yorkers,

are, you have to be like pretty low percentile of New Yorkers to qualify at all.

And I think a lot of the people, yeah, there's more people on, you know, assistance right now and aid programs, but there's also these people in like the 20% income bracket above, like you said, you know, 30,000 for a family, the people who are making, you

$30,000 to $70,000 for a family of four, they have no assistance.