Natalie Ellis

And, you know, spend the time on a proposal that might not even get a response, but know that the work you're putting out, you're really proud of, and you can see where this is going. And I think you have to be willing to do that with any idea. And then you can pivot. You'll get great data, but yeah. I don't think it's hard to go the extra mile.

I don't think it's hard to do something incredible because most people won't do it.

I don't think it's hard to do something incredible because most people won't do it.

I don't think it's hard to do something incredible because most people won't do it.

Do you ever think about that? If you want to start from scratch right now, like, yes, people can say, you know, the job market saturated or the entrepreneurship space is saturated. This industry is saturated. Whenever I'm looking at starting again from scratch, I actually feel like I'm so well positioned to start again because I'm just willing to do those things.

Do you ever think about that? If you want to start from scratch right now, like, yes, people can say, you know, the job market saturated or the entrepreneurship space is saturated. This industry is saturated. Whenever I'm looking at starting again from scratch, I actually feel like I'm so well positioned to start again because I'm just willing to do those things.

Do you ever think about that? If you want to start from scratch right now, like, yes, people can say, you know, the job market saturated or the entrepreneurship space is saturated. This industry is saturated. Whenever I'm looking at starting again from scratch, I actually feel like I'm so well positioned to start again because I'm just willing to do those things.

I'm willing to think about, does my background look decent? You know, am I willing to prep for this call? I'm just willing to do those things. And I feel like if you go into anything, applying for jobs, startup ideas, anything with just this attitude of expectation, you're just not going to get there.

I'm willing to think about, does my background look decent? You know, am I willing to prep for this call? I'm just willing to do those things. And I feel like if you go into anything, applying for jobs, startup ideas, anything with just this attitude of expectation, you're just not going to get there.

I'm willing to think about, does my background look decent? You know, am I willing to prep for this call? I'm just willing to do those things. And I feel like if you go into anything, applying for jobs, startup ideas, anything with just this attitude of expectation, you're just not going to get there.

And I know that's harsh to say, but I also don't think this Gen Z movement, the quiet quitting, all that stuff, I don't think that's really setting people up for success at all. I have strong opinions on all of that.

And I know that's harsh to say, but I also don't think this Gen Z movement, the quiet quitting, all that stuff, I don't think that's really setting people up for success at all. I have strong opinions on all of that.

And I know that's harsh to say, but I also don't think this Gen Z movement, the quiet quitting, all that stuff, I don't think that's really setting people up for success at all. I have strong opinions on all of that.

If that doesn't sum up this conversation, I don't know what is.

If that doesn't sum up this conversation, I don't know what is.

If that doesn't sum up this conversation, I don't know what is.

Yeah, it really does still work. It's not such, I don't feel like And I'm still a big advocate of building audience on social. I don't think it's too saturated. I just think it's the way that you approach it.

Yeah, it really does still work. It's not such, I don't feel like And I'm still a big advocate of building audience on social. I don't think it's too saturated. I just think it's the way that you approach it.

Yeah, it really does still work. It's not such, I don't feel like And I'm still a big advocate of building audience on social. I don't think it's too saturated. I just think it's the way that you approach it.

If you're going to approach it trying to do the same thing that everyone else is doing and have this low effort approach, I don't think you're going to get the results that you're looking for. So yeah, across the board. What are some of your startup ideas lately? They're like, oh, let me consult my...