Natalie Joy

For sure.

Yeah, I think, you know, we knew it was a possibility.

Although when it started, I figured, okay, like I'm just going to be the husband in the background, you know, helping with the kids.

And this is going to be drama amongst the girls.

And then lo and behold, here we are sort of digging into it.

And as you watch the show, you sort of are realizing that this isn't something that we generally dig into.

And we're figuring it out.

Doing the show helped us to address that.

this topic specifically that we were too busy to address, or maybe we were hiding behind the fact that we had all these kids and we're like, ah, we'll just shelve it and not kind of deal with it.

And we decided, you know, as it was starting to unfold, at least me, I was like,

If I'm going to talk about this, I'm not going to half-ass it.

I'm just going to, you know, really just dive into it, and it is what it is.

I'm not going to be ashamed of whatever my feelings are, and I really genuinely care about Natasha, and I want to hear what she has to say.

And that's okay if it's not great.

I'm scared by it, but I'll listen to it, you know?

And if everybody's going to hear about it, everybody's going to hear about it.

But I don't know how she felt like I was when we I didn't see some of her scenes sure so watching that back and

was very emotional for me because I was like, you know, sort of not that did, did I make a mistake kind of like making this storyline, I guess you would say, but it's kind of hurting her.

And it made me feel sad, you know, that she was having those feelings and that I wasn't there to be able to be like, no, no, no, no, don't feel that, you know, or not that I should say that, but just, I felt bad.

I understand.