Natalie Kitroff

Like, you can't spend more than this amount.

But Congress can't compel the government to spend a minimum amount of money.

Exactly.

And we know that he has a pretty friendly Supreme Court where the conservatives have this six to three majority.

I assume he's also banking on that advantage.

So, Coral, it's one thing for Vote to have developed these ideas in his four years in the wilderness, coming into office for a second time.

I'm wondering what President Trump makes of this plan to radically change the way that money is spent in Washington.

I mean, Vote would need Trump's buy-in to execute it, right?

Do we know what Trump thought of it?

So both President Trump and Vote believe that there should be more power concentrated in the hands of the presidency.

They have different reasons.

But in any case, there's this marriage of convenience.

They both have good use for one another.

We'll be right back.

Coral, you said vote, all ready to go, runs into Elon Musk.

What did you mean by that?

How so?

Because it does seem like the two might be rowing in the same direction, being kind of philosophically aligned on this issue.

Can you give us an example just of what the kind of frustration of vote actually looked like?

I mean, when did Musk get in his way?