Natalie Kitroff

But at the same time, for vote, it's also about his really primary focus, which is giving the president control over spending and eliminating it as much as possible.

So despite all of Vought's grand ambitions and his efforts to really see them through in that first term, he gets stymied.

And how does he channel that obsession?

Like, what is he actually doing with his time and on all of that energy during the Biden years?

A far cry from the White House.

What's an example of that harder edge?

Like, how do you see it show itself?

Yeah, I remember that.

The idea being that the legislature, according to Vote, can tell the federal government what the upper limit of spending is.

Like, you can't spend more than this amount.

But Congress can't compel the government to spend a minimum amount of money.

Exactly.

And we know that he has a pretty friendly Supreme Court where the conservatives have this six to three majority.

I assume he's also banking on that advantage.

So, Coral, it's one thing for Vote to have developed these ideas in his four years in the wilderness, coming into office for a second time.

I'm wondering what President Trump makes of this plan to radically change the way that money is spent in Washington.

I mean, Vote would need Trump's buy-in to execute it, right?

Do we know what Trump thought of it?

So both President Trump and Vote believe that there should be more power concentrated in the hands of the presidency.

They have different reasons.