Natalie Kitroff

But in any case, there's this marriage of convenience.

They both have good use for one another.

We'll be right back.

Coral, you said vote, all ready to go, runs into Elon Musk.

What did you mean by that?

How so?

Because it does seem like the two might be rowing in the same direction, being kind of philosophically aligned on this issue.

Can you give us an example just of what the kind of frustration of vote actually looked like?

I mean, when did Musk get in his way?

How exactly?

It's interesting.

You hear a lot that the Trump administration, you know, has tried to do this flood the zone approach of overwhelm your opponents with so many things that they just can't contend with them all.

But Vote is really advocating the opposite, it sounds like.

I mean, he is wanting a very deliberate plan to be executed.

And what has that rise actually looked like?

What's the manifestation of vote unleashed, unencumbered by Musk?

Daring them to vote against him.

So it sounds like in this case, Vote has basically gone to Congress and said, look, we're not going to spend this $5 billion in foreign aid that you've already appropriated.

Go ahead and challenge us on it.

Congress does not challenge the Trump administration on this.