Natalie Kitroweth

This drug is made all over the country, and if you imagine this crackdown spreading, it requires a lot of resource, it requires a lot of troops, it requires a lot of intelligence, and it requires a lot of willingness sustained over a really long period of time to make a difference. There is also huge demand for this drug in the United States that really hasn't been addressed.

This drug is made all over the country, and if you imagine this crackdown spreading, it requires a lot of resource, it requires a lot of troops, it requires a lot of intelligence, and it requires a lot of willingness sustained over a really long period of time to make a difference. There is also huge demand for this drug in the United States that really hasn't been addressed.

And so it is hard to imagine that even this push, even a sustained push, could entirely stamp out the production of this drug without a lot of other elements coming into play. And I think we're all watching to see what those elements are. Will Trump decide to address demand in the United States, the addiction that has driven so many people to this lethal substance?

And so it is hard to imagine that even this push, even a sustained push, could entirely stamp out the production of this drug without a lot of other elements coming into play. And I think we're all watching to see what those elements are. Will Trump decide to address demand in the United States, the addiction that has driven so many people to this lethal substance?

Will Shainbaum continue the pressure? And for how long can Trump really keep Mexico in this position of trying to satisfy his demands? Because if they reach a deal on tariffs, then what?

Will Shainbaum continue the pressure? And for how long can Trump really keep Mexico in this position of trying to satisfy his demands? Because if they reach a deal on tariffs, then what?

Right. And are we looking at a period of potentially several years of these threats and uncertainty and upheaval, or is this all just going to go away tomorrow if they reach a deal?

Right. And are we looking at a period of potentially several years of these threats and uncertainty and upheaval, or is this all just going to go away tomorrow if they reach a deal?

I think what we've seen is that at least in this context, in this month and in this place, the tariffs worked, for now at least.

I think what we've seen is that at least in this context, in this month and in this place, the tariffs worked, for now at least.

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroff. This is The Daily. Artificial intelligence has changed the way millions of people write emails, conduct research, and seek advice. All things that are essential, but mostly unfeeling. Today, my colleague Kashmir Hill on a woman whose relationship with the chatbot went much further than that. And what her story means for love in the age of AI.

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroff. This is The Daily. Artificial intelligence has changed the way millions of people write emails, conduct research, and seek advice. All things that are essential, but mostly unfeeling. Today, my colleague Kashmir Hill on a woman whose relationship with the chatbot went much further than that. And what her story means for love in the age of AI.

It's Tuesday, February 25th. Kashmir, welcome back to the show. Thank you. So you're known here at The Times for covering some of the strangest, most futuristic corners of the tech world. But even for you, it seems like this story of this woman and her relationship with a chatbot really stood out. So tell me about it.

It's Tuesday, February 25th. Kashmir, welcome back to the show. Thank you. So you're known here at The Times for covering some of the strangest, most futuristic corners of the tech world. But even for you, it seems like this story of this woman and her relationship with a chatbot really stood out. So tell me about it.

Kashmir, just to pause for a second, should I be calling this thing Leo, it, him? How do you navigate that?

Kashmir, just to pause for a second, should I be calling this thing Leo, it, him? How do you navigate that?

Leo. Okay, got it. And so what do Irene and Leo talk about?

Leo. Okay, got it. And so what do Irene and Leo talk about?

Okay, so ChatGPT is willing to engage in this fantasy with her, and this is a family show, so I don't want to get too explicit, but what does that actually look like in sex with a chatbot?

Okay, so ChatGPT is willing to engage in this fantasy with her, and this is a family show, so I don't want to get too explicit, but what does that actually look like in sex with a chatbot?