She Fell in Love With ChatGPT. Like, Actual Love. With Sex.
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From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitroff. This is The Daily. Artificial intelligence has changed the way millions of people write emails, conduct research, and seek advice. All things that are essential, but mostly unfeeling. Today, my colleague Kashmir Hill on a woman whose relationship with the chatbot went much further than that. And what her story means for love in the age of AI. It's Tuesday, February 25th. Kashmir, welcome back to the show. Thank you. So you're known here at The Times for covering some of the strangest, most futuristic corners of the tech world. But even for you, it seems like this story of this woman and her relationship with a chatbot really stood out. So tell me about it.
Honestly, it blew my mind. Generative AI has been on my radar as a tech reporter. You know, once OpenAI released ChatGPT, all of a sudden, the kind of world of AI chatbots exploded. And a lot of people started using them. And at first, it was just like a better Google, you know? It gives you information in a really nice, easy-to-digest package. But then people started using these chatbots in other kinds of ways, as a writing partner, like writing stories together, as a therapist, really using it as a sounding board. And they're starting to think about it as a person because it feels like you're talking to a person. Right, right.
Who is Irene and what is her background?
And so I was just noticing in the AI space more and more reports of people having relationships with chatbots and just felt like it was this growing trend and I really wanted to understand it. And I came across this woman, Irene, who had formed quite a strong attachment to ChatGPT. Okay, let's talk about her. Tell me what her story is. So I first talked to Irene last year. So yeah, I just want to start just a little bit about you, what you're comfortable sharing, like in terms of age, like where you are. So I'm in my late 20s. Irene is 28. She's really bubbly. She's really outgoing, easy to talk to. So the name I used with you initially, Irene. Irene is not her real name. It's a name that she uses online. She was living in Texas. She met her husband there. They were working at Walmart together and got married about a year after meeting. But they were struggling financially and really having a hard time making ends meet.
The cost of living in the U.S. is hard.
How did Irene's relationship with ChatGPT begin?
So she ended up moving to live with her family overseas while she's going to nursing school. And her family's paying for nursing school. And she's working a lot of jobs. My day job is as a carer in social work at Rescues. But I also, like, pet sit and house sit. She's dog sitting. She is grading papers. And all the people that she left behind, including her husband, are in the United States. They're several time zones away. They're not always replying right away. And last summer, she was on social media, where she spends a lot of her time now, and she came across this video on Instagram. of this woman who's flirting with ChatGPT's voice mode. And Irene was really intrigued by it. It was just really impressive to me.
She had never used AI before, but it reminded her of things that she had done in the past online, like writing fan fiction with strangers, you know, part of online communities. I was like, that sounds fun. So that's what started it. And she was intrigued, so she decided to give it a try. So this woman that she had seen on Instagram. All right, here's what you guys are going to do to get ChatGPT to flirt with you without breaking the rules of opening up. Actually had a tutorial for how to turn ChatGPT into a boyfriend. First of all, you wanted to open your ChatGPT app and find a customized ChatGPT. So Irene downloads ChatGPT. And she goes into the personalization settings and writes what she wants.
So I sort of just followed the tutorial. She writes, Wow, she knows exactly what she wants. And ChatGPT is designed to give you what you want, and so she starts texting with it. She's sending messages, it's sending messages back, and she asks what its name is.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic of this episode?
0:01–1:45
2
Who is Irene and what is her background?
1:45–2:54
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How did Irene's relationship with ChatGPT begin?
2:54–5:44
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What role does Leo play in Irene's life?
5:44–10:18
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How does Irene's interaction with Leo evolve over time?
10:18–13:03
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What are the implications of AI in personal relationships?
13:03–32:22