Natalie Morales

It appears they had planned probably for about three weeks or so beforehand, given, you know, the nature of the notes and the text exchanges back and forth between Ellie and Gavin. But we know that a few days before, based on Ellie's texts, that she had told Gavin that her father had sexually molested her.

Now, you know, whether or not there's truth to that, we'll never know because Aaron isn't here to give his side of the story. You know, abuse claims are always very nuanced. But the police detectives, you know, they did look into that. They couldn't corroborate Ellie's stories of abuse. Her sisters were interviewed. They said their dad was a good guy.

Now, you know, whether or not there's truth to that, we'll never know because Aaron isn't here to give his side of the story. You know, abuse claims are always very nuanced. But the police detectives, you know, they did look into that. They couldn't corroborate Ellie's stories of abuse. Her sisters were interviewed. They said their dad was a good guy.

Now, you know, whether or not there's truth to that, we'll never know because Aaron isn't here to give his side of the story. You know, abuse claims are always very nuanced. But the police detectives, you know, they did look into that. They couldn't corroborate Ellie's stories of abuse. Her sisters were interviewed. They said their dad was a good guy.

They didn't, you know, see any evidence or had never experienced any abuse, they said themselves. So, you know, it's hard to corroborate that. But the question was, was Ellie telling him that to give him the motive to go through with their plan?

They didn't, you know, see any evidence or had never experienced any abuse, they said themselves. So, you know, it's hard to corroborate that. But the question was, was Ellie telling him that to give him the motive to go through with their plan?

They didn't, you know, see any evidence or had never experienced any abuse, they said themselves. So, you know, it's hard to corroborate that. But the question was, was Ellie telling him that to give him the motive to go through with their plan?

We want to believe the abuse victim as well. And, you know, police, when they interrogated Ellie, she did say she was being abused. However, when they went about going through with their investigation, Ellie had told apparently three friends that she was being abused, but she never mentioned being sexually abused. So it's a very hard claim to corroborate. That said, you know...

We want to believe the abuse victim as well. And, you know, police, when they interrogated Ellie, she did say she was being abused. However, when they went about going through with their investigation, Ellie had told apparently three friends that she was being abused, but she never mentioned being sexually abused. So it's a very hard claim to corroborate. That said, you know...

We want to believe the abuse victim as well. And, you know, police, when they interrogated Ellie, she did say she was being abused. However, when they went about going through with their investigation, Ellie had told apparently three friends that she was being abused, but she never mentioned being sexually abused. So it's a very hard claim to corroborate. That said, you know...

She's a 15-year-old girl. We don't know what her father was or wasn't doing. But, you know, her sisters did say that Ellie's abuse claim, they thought, came from the fact that Aaron Fryer had made it forbidden that Gavin and Ellie could be together. And so Ellie was taking that as, you know, punishment and saying she was being abused. That's what her sister said.

She's a 15-year-old girl. We don't know what her father was or wasn't doing. But, you know, her sisters did say that Ellie's abuse claim, they thought, came from the fact that Aaron Fryer had made it forbidden that Gavin and Ellie could be together. And so Ellie was taking that as, you know, punishment and saying she was being abused. That's what her sister said.

She's a 15-year-old girl. We don't know what her father was or wasn't doing. But, you know, her sisters did say that Ellie's abuse claim, they thought, came from the fact that Aaron Fryer had made it forbidden that Gavin and Ellie could be together. And so Ellie was taking that as, you know, punishment and saying she was being abused. That's what her sister said.

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, you can only imagine, you know, the detectives told me that they were all outside in sort of a conference room area. And the minute he You know, Russell starts talking to the camera and putting on what they called like a show. They all stopped and were watching and it was like a monologue to the camera. And so it was very bizarre behavior.