Natalie Morales

She's a 15-year-old girl. We don't know what her father was or wasn't doing. But, you know, her sisters did say that Ellie's abuse claim, they thought, came from the fact that Aaron Fryer had made it forbidden that Gavin and Ellie could be together. And so Ellie was taking that as, you know, punishment and saying she was being abused. That's what her sister said.

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

Right. And in his interrogation with Detective Ford, he says, you know, and I was protecting my unborn child. You know, he really believed because Ellie told him that she thought she was pregnant. Now, there was surveillance footage of them going into a store right after they had murdered Aaron Fryer, and she did buy a pregnancy kit at that time. So,

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, we don't know what she really thought at the time, if she really thought she was pregnant or not, though. You know, again, police thinking that she was using everything she could, according to police, to try to manipulate the situation. They view her as the mastermind of the plot.

You know, you can only imagine, you know, the detectives told me that they were all outside in sort of a conference room area. And the minute he You know, Russell starts talking to the camera and putting on what they called like a show. They all stopped and were watching and it was like a monologue to the camera. And so it was very bizarre behavior.

You know, you can only imagine, you know, the detectives told me that they were all outside in sort of a conference room area. And the minute he You know, Russell starts talking to the camera and putting on what they called like a show. They all stopped and were watching and it was like a monologue to the camera. And so it was very bizarre behavior.

You know, you can only imagine, you know, the detectives told me that they were all outside in sort of a conference room area. And the minute he You know, Russell starts talking to the camera and putting on what they called like a show. They all stopped and were watching and it was like a monologue to the camera. And so it was very bizarre behavior.

That video actually got released on YouTube and had gone viral, you know, after the fact. But that said, Russell had given them so much information at that point. And you could see he is a talker and he likes to tell people what he knows. And so he was really helpful to the police early on in their investigation and allowed them then to use what he was telling them.

That video actually got released on YouTube and had gone viral, you know, after the fact. But that said, Russell had given them so much information at that point. And you could see he is a talker and he likes to tell people what he knows. And so he was really helpful to the police early on in their investigation and allowed them then to use what he was telling them.

That video actually got released on YouTube and had gone viral, you know, after the fact. But that said, Russell had given them so much information at that point. And you could see he is a talker and he likes to tell people what he knows. And so he was really helpful to the police early on in their investigation and allowed them then to use what he was telling them.

to go back to Gavin and to go back to Ellie to get their sides of the story as well on, you know, what happened that morning and in the aftermath after they had killed Aaron Fryer.

to go back to Gavin and to go back to Ellie to get their sides of the story as well on, you know, what happened that morning and in the aftermath after they had killed Aaron Fryer.

to go back to Gavin and to go back to Ellie to get their sides of the story as well on, you know, what happened that morning and in the aftermath after they had killed Aaron Fryer.

It almost seemed like it was like the Joker out of the Batman movie or something, just the way he was talking. Absolutely, absolutely.

It almost seemed like it was like the Joker out of the Batman movie or something, just the way he was talking. Absolutely, absolutely.

It almost seemed like it was like the Joker out of the Batman movie or something, just the way he was talking. Absolutely, absolutely.

Yes. In the state of Oregon, it is legal to interview a minor like that. Police, the fact that they didn't let her mom know that she was okay, Maggie Fryer was very upset about that. I mean, she said... You know, at the point when she made the 911 call to first alert police to the situation, she reported Ellie and Aaron as missing.