Natalie Morales

But when it came down to it, you know, how was he making money?

It really, according to Brianna, was Gloria that was providing for him.

And Gloria told her that Rickman just refused to get a job.

Yeah.

Now, Gloria also, I think, suspected that Rickman was tracking her.

And she told Brianna she found an Apple Air tag in her truck.

She said that she feared he'd hidden more there in order to be able to track her.

And, you know, that became more obvious once she moved out and tried to rid herself of him.

Yeah, it's interesting because according to the prosecutors, Rickman, he did have some convictions for drug and firearms offenses in California.

But it was when he was in California and in Oakland in particular that he met Aja Huall.

Now, according to Aja, she met Rickman when she was just 14 years old.

Rickman was in his 30s, so huge age difference there.

But Aja told us that when she met him, he knew that she was being trafficked.

But by somebody else, he seemed as if he wanted to get her away from her trafficker.

But he ends up becoming her trafficker.

And really, you know, Aja's story is so remarkable in the hour because he

even though she missed a lot of high school, she managed to go back and get her GED when she was 17 years old.

She went on, got her master's degree from UC Berkeley, from the Public Affairs School, the Goldman School, and she's now working as a consultant.

That's amazing.

She is such a success story.